The Obvious Question
Really, those two points shouldn't be so difficult to figure out.
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The Obvious Question
Really, those two points shouldn't be so difficult to figure out.
Bowser said:In the larger picture, why is homosexuality such a priority? It's sexual behavior. That's their claim to fame. Only in Western culture could such a thing become the focus of so much attention.
I can follow your reasoning. About 21,000 people die of starvation every day (one person every four seconds). There are many, many reasons to take pity on others. In the larger picture, why is homosexuality such a priority? It's sexual behavior. That's their claim to fame. Only in Western culture could such a thing become the focus of so much attention.
Magical Realist said:Why is this an either/or scenario for you?
Why is this even an issue for you? People who are gay need their rights respected. To love and to marry their soulmates. And...starving people need food. Why is this an either/or scenario for you? From what I can tell there are massive efforts by many nations and charities to feed starving people. Are we to stop protecting people's rights to be gay because there's people still starving? What would that solve? Are gay people using up all the compassion that could normally be spent on others? I sense much homophobia in you grasshopper. As if gay people are somehow at fault for people starving. It's one of your group's oldest ploys. Like how they blame gays for hurricanes and earthquakes and terrorists acts. Tell ya what. Don't worry about us because we're doin just fine. Donate to world hunger charities. Move to a foreign country and help feed the starving. It would be better than sitting around all day bitching about gay people causing people to starve to death.
"According to UNICEF statistics, about 42% of Brazilian children live in poverty. Also, approximately 1/8 of all Brazilian children live on the streets."
Discovering the Truth About Brazilian Children
by Lindsay Bodack, Stephanie Hunter, Tom Kaufman, and Caitlin Kelly
http://www.tulane.edu/~rouxbee/kids99/brazil.html
Well, insofar as there are people who kill gays, being prevented from being alive is preventing people from being gay. Preventing people from being gay in a certain country and forcing them out of the country is preventing them from at least being gay in that country.No one is preventing gays from being gay.
OK, so you are OK with suffering as long as it's not the worst suffering. So, if you are raped, you won't report it, since the police have more serious crimes to pursue?In the larger scheme of things, the scales of priorities should point in the direction of REAL problems. Weigh the difference between anal and oral sex to that of people with REAL problems--You know, like people starving to death. Only in our culture could something so trivial be hoisted onto an alter. While Teassa moans and groans about gay bashing in Brazil, a closer look would show that children in that country are suffering much worse.
PhysBang said:Well, insofar as there are people who kill gays, being prevented from being alive is preventing people from being gay.
No one is preventing gays from being gay. In the larger scheme of things, the scales of priorities should point in the direction of REAL problems. Weigh the difference between anal and oral sex to that of people with REAL problems--You know, like people starving to death. Only in our culture could something so trivial be hoisted onto an alter. While Teassa moans and groans about gay bashing in Brazil, a closer look would show that children in that country are suffering much worse.
So yeah, it is a bit hard to take it seriously.
Magical Realist said:I still don't see how the existence of one problem mitigates that of another.
It doesn't; and that's not his point, anyway. His point is any excuse to promote bigotry.
Look, of course homosexuals shouldn't suffer under fist and assault just because they are gay. I think we all agree on that point. How people manage to identify and single out homosexuals on the street, I don't know. As it stands now, homosexuals have all the rights given to heterosexuals--in the U.S. Regardless, people still hold strong opinions on the subject, whether those opinions be personal or religious in nature, and many are starting to take notice.
My opinion is that the majority of homosexuals in Western culture have it far better than much of the World's population. Heck, we all have it pretty good in comparison. Yet when we spend so much time pissing over a bakery that refuses to bake a cake, while so many are actually starving because of lack of food, there's something terribly wrong with our society. I simply can't feel badly for the homosexual who was denied access to the Boy Scouts when I know such crap really doesn't matter in the larger picture.
People are so obsessed with First World Problems that they have no idea what true suffering is. I think I would ask you, what are the most pressing problems of this world? When we talk about homosexuality (sex), does that really deserve the front burner? Really? I mean, 24,000 people die of starvation every day.
I do think about it, more so when I drive by the homeless camp near my home. I'm well aware that there are REAL problems in our world. And I do measure them with a skeptical eye. You tell me, does hunger seem more imperative than sexual desire? If a person wants anal intercourse, I'm certain they can find it without much trouble, but what about those who have no food?Let me ask you this: do you devote your life and way of thinking to the solution of world hunger? Or, is it just something you brought up now to diminish the value of tolerance and equality in our society? I'm suspecting the latter, which means you are using world hunger as yet another excuse to attack gay people for simply living out their true natures.Are you that hard up for reasons to demonize people on the sole basis of their sexual preference? I guess it's a good sign of the times if such transparent spite against people you don't even know has to be resorted to. At least there's no bible verses and rants about gay child molesters.
I do think about it, more so when I drive by the homeless camp near my home. I'm well aware that there are REAL problems in our world. And I do measure them with a skeptical eye. You tell me, does hunger seem more imperative than sexual desire? If a person wants anal intercourse, I'm certain they can find it without much trouble, but what about those who have no food?
No, I do not do enough to solve the problem. My empathy still resides with those people, more so than with paraphilias.
Bowser said:Hmm, I will be honest, I do believe there is something wrong with homosexuality. If that makes me a "bigot," then damn me for having an opinion. I also believe there's something wrong with heroine addiction, but the social justice warriors haven't latched onto them yet.
It would seem that regardless of my efforts to be thoughtful in my replies, I have, again, been warned. I'm hesitant to respond to your reply, Magic. I would love to give you an honest reply, but that won't fly here.Then you should devote your energies towards donations or actually helping starving people directly than complaining and scapegoating gay people who have nothing to do with that problem. Our freedom to live and to love our soulmates is not related in any way to you doing this. It doesn't obstruct you in any way from accomplishing this goal. Unless ofcourse you are using the mere prospect of helping starving people as an excuse to bash gay people. What possible relevance does what gay people do have to you? You shouldn't even be worrying about what people do in bed in the privacy of their own homes. Do you worry about heterosexuals and their sexual practices? I imagine not. You seek only to justify a persistent and personal grudge you have against gay people. You need to look into yourself and question why you feel that way about such a irrelevant matter as what consenting strangers legally do in their own beds at night.