Re: Height of Trees
Originally posted by Robert Jameson
My money says that mother nature knows what she is doing and the Darwinian theory of natural selection has got it wrong
Really? Is that what you have been saying?
You could have been clearer, with all the god gametes this and that I struggled to see what you were trying to say.
You know, I used to be 99% sure this was the case, that mother nature was in control and the planet earth was a living being that activated species for a purpose and so on. I also believed when we die we become one with the earth and so in a way our second life is actually being earth along with the rest of physical history.
Now I'm not so sure. I'm 50-50 at this stage.
I do favour that theory because it makes this coldly logical universe seem prettier but I try not to let that sway my judgements.
The people here have taught me alot and I am starting to see how it is possible that this is all random.
When I made this thread the point I was trying to make was that it seemed mother nature was in control and that it was aiming for viper when it "activated" deformities in the caterpillar's genes.
I've seen some pretty good retorts to that possibility though.
None have made it seem absolutely impossible, just not necasarily the case.
I find it strange how nature is a web of efficiency, so genius are all the little coincidences that make it all tie together that it is easy to feel like earth knows what its doing.
Every single species in an area is keeping all the other species in that area alive in some direct or indirect way. Its truely amazing.
The oceans plankton moderators(whales, anemone's, etc) are keeping all life on land alive and if it weren't for histories plankton moderators that fish could have never crawled out of the ocean in the first place. 70% of earths oxygen is produced by plankton, once it would have been a hundred percent because I think plankton came before tree's even, if it didn't get preyed upon, it couldn't have stayed around this long( Just like we won't stay around for long because we don't get preyed on but that comes later).
More plankton moderators have arised since then and how very lucky, if the whales ancestors didn't go back to the ocean and get to work on the plankton there is no way earth could have provided enough oxygen for six billion humans. What guided the whales ancestors to go into the ocean? Well there is a lot of very logical explanations but there is also the zany idea that earth was preparing herself for the homo-sapien invasion. Guiding her history by playing around with the instincts of individuals. Mind-control if you will. But only controlling the subconcious. Things are born with their instincts and they must change over generations for anything to change. I think earth might be somehow doing that.
This is really hard for me to explain for some reason and it appears difficult for you too jameson.
I will cut to the chase.
My theory on why humans are here which alot of people here are probably sick of
I think humans were a "procedure" activated by mother nature on purpose. For whatever reason it was time for a change and we are altering this globe like nothing else in history. Alterations have occurred before but humans are a new shinier ice age of sorts.
Now mother nature used her mind control techniques and ingrained instructions into our instincts; "Destroy and alter me, while in the process killing yourself off as quickly as possible", and we like the servants we are, got to work. We will allow for new species when we are gone, very different ones that will be perfectly adapted to our ruins.
The whale just likes to eat plankton and play and dream, it just so happens that it is also helping the planet breathe, we like to progress and build and make ourselves comfortable and so on and so forth, it just so happens that that drastically alters the earths environment and will inevitably render us extinct relatively prematurely. It seems to me that earth can judge what consequences will be reached by making animals want to do things.
Fairly accurately, notice the sudden influx of environmentalists? They didn't used to exist, at all. I believe earth might have got a little worried and "implanted" environmental awareness into the brains of some individuals to slow down the process of our alterations. Make us aware of what the consequences of our actions could be. Now environmentalists aren't necasarrily more intelligent than other people but why do they notice these dangers and none of the genius' of history did? Its almost like we only notice what earth allows us too.
I also think maybe the bible was "inspired by god" like all the fanatics think. Inspired in the sense, environmentalists were suddenly "inspired". But earth never said it wasn't allowed to lie. The bible was a trick to boost us into the "alteration direction", the morals and values it teaches are flagrantly setting us up for a short lifespan as a species and telling us we are more important than earth. The things it says are "wrong" are righter than right in reality. Killing eachother is "right" for an efficient planet to stay basically the same. Treating every member of your species as a brother or "member of your clan" is very wrong if a balance is to be kept. Why does the bible contradict nature so damn much? It tells us to do the opposite of what everything else is doing, the opposite of what the animals that are keeping this globe spinning are doing.
Earth set the instincts of humans back then to think like that to start these alterations. Looking after every member of your species is a good way to become overpopulated and overpopulation is a good way to alter the earth. Especially when accompanied by the ability to alter which grew from sharing knowledge with members outside of our family clan.
So yes I think humans are a procedure similar to pruning the leaves on a tree or a forest fire. We will allow for new life and the nature of evolution is to make creatures more and more efficient. By killing lots of animals like we have we will be helping their species evolve.
We didn't quite render whales extinct did we? For a long time no one cared, whales were thought of as mindless hunks of floating resources, but the environmentalists were activated just in time, now the whales have the ability to become even better at survival than they are now because of the inbreeding that will undoubtedly occur due to their lack of numbers, thus making deformities, some of which that will be beneficial and built upon until new more efficient whale species emerge. By that time our task will be over and the memory of humans will be circulating around the new food chain. A food chain that was bettered by our actions.
No matter what the truth is, earths history is a strange tale, filled with mind boggling coincidences, and genius links and events.
Science fiction seems so bush league compared to the story of this planet we live on.