You're just restating the previous claim. Tell us how you know this, and how you arrived at the beliefs you stated earlier.
Again, where did you get this info?
The Boston Marathon Bombing
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You're just restating the previous claim. Tell us how you know this, and how you arrived at the beliefs you stated earlier.
Again, where did you get this info?
The organisation may have been removed,
but members on an entry list might find getting a visa difficult.
Or don't you think so?
but members on an entry list might find getting a visa difficult.
Or don't you think so?
I am not interested in what they say in public.
I have lived 21 years now with being monitored in london, done nothing. If i did nout and they did this to me, what do you think they will do to people that have done something to them really.
I would suspect they are monitoring those people all the time, from that group you posted.
In the real world uk gov and usa gov care not about rights or laws, do not be so naive.
In other words, you're not interested in reality, you'd rather cling to your paranoid delusion that you're being watched.
Just wanted to clear that up.
Mr. Andy1033 is some flavor of mentally ill person, based on previous posts, go easy on him.
I was just trying to establish that fact, since I'm not familiar with him.
He's right in what he says.
If you have been on a list of persona non grata, you are likely to stay on that list until someone takes you off it.
If you read Joepistole's link, it includes this:
"With today's actions, the department does not overlook or forget the MEK's past acts of terrorism,
including its involvement in the killing of US citizens in Iran in the 1970s and an attack on US soil in 1992," it said.
That's not what he said. He said you are on the list for life "No matter what."
@Mr Andy
If you have done nothing for 21 years, they will not be watching you.
They haven't got the time or man resources to do so.
If you have done nothing for 21 years, they will not be watching you.
They haven't got the time or man resources to do so.
My life has proven you wrong.
I would suspect that probably there are at least a million on the fbi watch list world wide. How do they monitor all these people? Of course all the hundreds of thousands working for alphabet agencies in usa do nothing with there time.
Be sure to repeat it here first.
We wouldn't like to be behind on anything.
We wouldn't like to be behind on anything.
What's his Twitter? That's got to be a barrel of laughs.
I fucking fucking fucking hate loosing large text parses. I fucking do. Let's do this again:
A non-answer. She's only saying she's 'unaware' of it. Simply, why not say: no, he's not being deported or he is, but for this instead of that. It's not hard.
I suspect he is being deported - or something - not that he has been yet.
I am much less rational than that. But there has been some argument that this al-Harbi is indeed being deported, or that he's leaving voluntarily, or that he's now not being deported. Some of it comes from this Blaze organization - don't know them - and some from Fox reporters - do know them - but they seem to cite multiple sources that discuss his impending deportation. I didn't say, or I hope I didn't, that he was deported, but it appears possible, unless both these organizations are making it up completely, which would be a huge violation of journalistic ethics. So it seems possible or probable. Moreover, the Obama administration has had two closed meetings with the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince al-Faisal, just after the Boston attack. Again: it might be entirely coincidental, but I'm considerably more pessimistic/suspicious than that (having seen the doings of that class of beings called politicians) and so I remain skeptical. And I've been right so far. :shrugs:
Eeep! Raised eyebrows?! Ohhh noooes!
Errr - which means he could not have been involved? How's that follow? Bottom line: I don't know if he was or wasn't. But it's a strange coincidence and I'm a suspicious kind of person. It sounds like they were thinking about booting him at the least. What I want to know is why. Maybe they weren't, but my feeling is that something's a little strange about this. And before you tell me that's illegitimate, should we delve into all the varieties of "Bush knew something about 9/11 before it happened" that cruise the inter-tubes? Some of them seem legitimate too, and it would hardly surprise me.
Actually, if it was just him, I'd be much more skeptical. But there's more than a few sites reporting this. Maybe it deserves further investigation. How do I know it doesn't?
A non-answer. She's only saying she's 'unaware' of it. Simply, why not say: no, he's not being deported or he is, but for this instead of that. It's not hard.
I suspect he is being deported - or something - not that he has been yet.
spidergoat said:
I am much less rational than that. But there has been some argument that this al-Harbi is indeed being deported, or that he's leaving voluntarily, or that he's now not being deported. Some of it comes from this Blaze organization - don't know them - and some from Fox reporters - do know them - but they seem to cite multiple sources that discuss his impending deportation. I didn't say, or I hope I didn't, that he was deported, but it appears possible, unless both these organizations are making it up completely, which would be a huge violation of journalistic ethics. So it seems possible or probable. Moreover, the Obama administration has had two closed meetings with the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince al-Faisal, just after the Boston attack. Again: it might be entirely coincidental, but I'm considerably more pessimistic/suspicious than that (having seen the doings of that class of beings called politicians) and so I remain skeptical. And I've been right so far. :shrugs:
Bells said:
Eeep! Raised eyebrows?! Ohhh noooes!
Errr - which means he could not have been involved? How's that follow? Bottom line: I don't know if he was or wasn't. But it's a strange coincidence and I'm a suspicious kind of person. It sounds like they were thinking about booting him at the least. What I want to know is why. Maybe they weren't, but my feeling is that something's a little strange about this. And before you tell me that's illegitimate, should we delve into all the varieties of "Bush knew something about 9/11 before it happened" that cruise the inter-tubes? Some of them seem legitimate too, and it would hardly surprise me.
Actually, if it was just him, I'd be much more skeptical. But there's more than a few sites reporting this. Maybe it deserves further investigation. How do I know it doesn't?
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Younger or youngest? Only the one other, I assume.
Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it isn't an answer. Saying she isn't aware of anyone being deported is probably the most accurate answer she could give.
Forgive me, but neither suspicion has any foundation.
Here's my conspiracy theory:
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Obama meets with victims, staffers at Massachusetts General Hospital
By DONOVAN SLACK
4/18/13 4:37 PM EDT
CBS This Morning's Jenna Sakwa snapped this pic of President Obama visiting one of the people injured in the Marathon bombing.
Karen Rand was with 29-year-old Krystle Campbell, who died in the explosion. The president spent a little over an hour Thursday at Massachusetts General Hospital meeting with victims, their families and staffmembers. First lady Michelle Obama also paid similar visits to Boston Children’s Hospital and Brigham and Women’s Hospital.
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Over an hour meeting with Karen Rand? What did they talk about, and why is Karen Rand now NOT being charged in connection with the bombing?
We don't know if she would have been anyway. But it's a strange coincidence, wouldn't you say? Obama was certainly thinking about her in connection with the bombing, and at least to him is certainly a person of interest. Maybe she knows nothing - but I feel like there's something very fishy here. Why is it being covered up, and why won't Obama admit to what she said that led him to 'get her off the list'?
Bells
Staff member
Settle petal..
Tell me something, if someone presents you with what you think is a stupid conspiracy theory question, would you sit there and keep answering for hours on end? Or would you just ignore it because it is such a stupid question in the first place?
I guess you need to question how much time should Government officials give to cranks?
:facepalm:
Yes, Yahoo News and The Examiner reporting on crank sites like The Blaze and Atlas Shrugs..
Here is a way to tell that something is probably a conspiracy theory crank and not to be taken seriously. When you see the words:
"Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs reports:
He is from a very powerful Saudi family with many terrorist ties. Abdul al-Harbi is a devout Muslim from Medina.
I said it takes longer than 15 hours to investigate all of Abdul al-Harbi's relatives, friends, acquaintances, and business and school friends.
Perhaps a quick look at the Arabic sources should raise the eyebrows of every American relative to the extent of the problem at hand. Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are steeped in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda. Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:
When I heard he was from a very powerful Saudi family, I worried about this kind of thing happening.
He is from a very powerful Saudi family with many terrorist ties. Abdul al-Harbi is a devout Muslim from Medina.
I said it takes longer than 15 hours to investigate all of Abdul al-Harbi's relatives, friends, acquaintances, and business and school friends.
Perhaps a quick look at the Arabic sources should raise the eyebrows of every American relative to the extent of the problem at hand. Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are steeped in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda. Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:
When I heard he was from a very powerful Saudi family, I worried about this kind of thing happening.
Emphasis mine.. When you especially see those bolded words..
Then it is a fair assumption that it is a crank conspiracy theory.
Yahoo gives even more hints in its reporting of such crank site's conspiracy theories. From your Yahoo link:
Key points:
* On Sean Hannity's Fox News program Wednesday night, terror expert Steve Emerson cited sources saying Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, the Saudi national who was briefly named a "person of interest" in the Boston Marathon bombings, is being deported on Tuesday.
* Thursday morning, Glenn Beck revealed on radio that TheBlaze was informed by sources that the Saudi national's visa had been revoked and he was, in fact, going to be deported on "security and related grounds."
* Among other things, sources told TheBlaze that the Saudi national had ties to a well-connected Saudi family and that his deportation was set to be framed as a "voluntary" departure to be with his family.
* A file, called an "event," was started on him three days ago.
* While discussing the issue on radio, TheBlaze's Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood revealed that the government has had second thoughts on deporting Ali Alharbi.
* Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions on the subject when confronted by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) on Capitol Hill.
* An ICE official refuted TheBlaze's report, calling it "categorically false."
* A congressional source, however, says that the file on Alharbi was created, that he was "linked" in some way to the Boston bombings (although its unclear how), and that documents showing all this have been sent to Congress.
* On Sean Hannity's Fox News program Wednesday night, terror expert Steve Emerson cited sources saying Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, the Saudi national who was briefly named a "person of interest" in the Boston Marathon bombings, is being deported on Tuesday.
* Thursday morning, Glenn Beck revealed on radio that TheBlaze was informed by sources that the Saudi national's visa had been revoked and he was, in fact, going to be deported on "security and related grounds."
* Among other things, sources told TheBlaze that the Saudi national had ties to a well-connected Saudi family and that his deportation was set to be framed as a "voluntary" departure to be with his family.
* A file, called an "event," was started on him three days ago.
* While discussing the issue on radio, TheBlaze's Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood revealed that the government has had second thoughts on deporting Ali Alharbi.
* Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions on the subject when confronted by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) on Capitol Hill.
* An ICE official refuted TheBlaze's report, calling it "categorically false."
* A congressional source, however, says that the file on Alharbi was created, that he was "linked" in some way to the Boston bombings (although its unclear how), and that documents showing all this have been sent to Congress.
I bolded the parts that should be a giant red flag that it is a conspiracy theory.
Now, there are more than enough hints there to tell you that you should not take such claims seriously. The biggest red flag and the funniest in the Yahoo link of yours:
TheBlaze has commissioned a translation of a well-known Saudi newspaper where Alharbi apparently gave an interview describing the situation.
The Blaze is owned with Glenn Beck. I will bet you everything I own that they just used Google Translate.
And you take it seriously?
How can anyone take anything from Pamela Geller and Glenn Beck seriously?
Yes.
I haven't had Botox, so I can raise my eyebrows freely.
This stuff is coming from Geller and her ilk and Glenn Beck.
How can you possibly give it any credence?
Pamela Geller.. Atlas Shrugs.. Glenn Beck.. The Blaze..
Enough said..
The kid is in hospital after a bomb exploded near him when he was watching the race. The perpetrators of that bombing were two Chechnyan born brothers who have lived in the US for quite a few years.
Give it a couple of days and Beck will probably blame George Soros in some way, shape or form.