The Big Bang Theory is the biggest lie in the western world

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To be honest, you have to have something that others want to listen to. Big Bang Theory is the best we can do now. And it will no doubt morph into something else, taking into consideration new findings (new facts) in the years to come. That's how science works.

Plus, I forgot to post and mention the following:
You cannot find new findings and new facts and new evidences with science, if you are stuck inside models that are explained, actually calcualted by models that are calculated by other models; that's not science, science based on true evidences and true and correct interpretations is true science
Science is religous, if new findings are not based on experiments, but on untestable and unprovable models over models.
Only what experiments show and prove to exist, should be modeled, because that is true science and that's how true science progresses further, there should not by any models based on another models, which are again based on other models- science cannot progress like that, becauee science in that way is stuck in untestable and unprovable hypotheses and models based on another untestable and unprovable hypotheses and models.
Untestable and unprvable models are not new findings and not evidences and not facts, you simply dig more holes to yourselves and create even more hypotheses over another hypotheses, and neither of these hypotheses and models is actually testable and provable in any way, on any level, in any form, that's why you get stuck forever in the same loop forever with zero progress in any way, on any level, in any form-facts.
 
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and neither of these hypotheses and models is actually testable and provable in any way, on any level, in any form, that's why you get stuck forever in the same loop forever with zero progress in any way, on any level, in any form-facts.
Lose the concept of proof.
A hypothisis is tested a model is constructed which can make reiable predictions. Thats the way it works which is what at you want isnt it?
You present no case for the proposition you argue and fail to listen to facts that tell you the way it is which is your loss but I understand for to accept the truth of the matter would destroy your preconceived notions and we cant have that as that would show you up as most foolish.
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You cannot find new findings and new facts and new evidences with science, if you are stuck inside models that are explained, actually calcualted by models that are calculated by other models; that's not science, science based on true evidences and true and correct interpretations is true science
Science is religous, if new findings are not based on experiments, but on untestable and unprovable models over models.
Why is this troll still here? Reported.
 
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People like yourself are trolling all the time because they do not allow different interpretations on what it is actually observe, not on what it is not observed, you accept mainstream explanations without really checking for yourself, you also do not take into account all those small details that scientists miss because they have to adjust evidences to their models, and those small details in interpretations of evidence make all the difference of the world.
If a viable alternative presented itself, I doubt anyone in the scientific community would refuse to test it and study it.

You have yet to present any viable alternative.

What you are doing is not even providing a different interpretation. You have every appearance of having launched a conspiracy theory, denying everything that has been observed to indicate that the big bang theory may be the most valid one due to what has been observed and measured.. You then rant on and on about how science is a religion and make baseless accusations without any proof whatsoever.

The fact that I asked you to stop, after 32 long pages of this same thing being repeated over and over, without any let up from you, demanding that a different interpretation be considered without actually presenting anything of value to explain why a different interpretation is warranted.. Hell, without even presenting a new theory of sorts.. Instead, it's the same thing, repeated for 32 pages.. Enough is enough. This may be the pseudoscience sub-forum, but if you are just going to sit here and deny everything, then no, you don't get to do that here.


I need to ask, but are you even interested in trying to have a discussion? Or are you only interested in bizarre accusations, conspiracy theories and abject denial, not to mention repeating the same thing over and over again for 33 pages now. I asked you to stop doing that and your response was to say the exact same thing, again.. Because the 33 pages worth of the same repetitive posting from you was not enough?

If you want me to stop this, others should also stop this, I'm not going to stop and shut up just because you ordered me to do so, I'm simply saying facts that none of "scientific", religious believers wants to accept and every time someone needs to post something, if I find enough time, I will easily respond it with criticism, skepticism and with facts and with evidences (with real-world evidences and with real-world facts, NOT with some pseudo-facts and NOT with some pseudo-evidences that mathematical and abstract and untestable models offer, although I think I said/posted everything that I needed to say/post just to let your interpretations for a second and look for all the tiny details that are always and forever overlooked in mainstream science, that mainstream, governing, official science always disregards.

It is always interesting that in every single century, the mainstram dogma of that time is always the same, people like me are always considered crackpots, just because we "crackposts" always show flaws in that minstream science and their holes in their misinterpretations, and the fact that not some tiny facts and tiny evidences are never taken into account, because the mainstream scientific structure always ignores all those tiny facts and all those tiny evidences that undermine their sicentific/religious structure to justify their existences and their teachings and, of course, to justify their fundings.
The most selling hypothesis is the most accepted one-facts, just look how sellable and valuable is BBH.
Well, I guess that answers that question..

Plus playing the martyr.. Dude..

It would help if you were actually interested in a discussion instead of repetitive berating, insults, accusations and conspiracies. But you do not seem to be interested in any form of discussion. And that is the biggest problem. This may be the pseudoscience sub-forum, but you still need to be able to actually participate and be willing to participate in a discussion.

You haven't exactly shown any flaws. You are just berating people over and over again, because they dare to see more scientific weight in the big bang theory. You and others have not provided enough evidence to counter that. Instead, what you have done is go on and on about conspiracies, make bizarre accusations about science being religious and insults to everyone who does not believe as you do.

You have not provided enough to make people doubt or question the big bang theory. Abusing them repeatedly as you have done for so many pages now is not going to convince them or anyone really. You are just going to be seen as a troll
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Case in point:

To be honest, it's worse when none listens to you, than get banned instantly, because you are both talking and posting to walls, since none even has the intelligence to understand what exactly I'm trying to say, all I'm saying their models are untestable and unprovable, pure fiction, and if science is not about testing and proving anything by using experiments, than there cannot be any predictiveness in all those mathematical, statistical and computer models and all other forms of fictional models, models and their interpretations should be based on evidences and not on other models that explain those models-you explain and model fiction with another fiction without using any evidence at all.
Accusing everyone of lacking the intelligence to see what you are seeing, is not really helpful or conducive to any type of discussion.

As I said, you have not provided enough to result in the big bang theory being wrong. Clearly you disagree and that's fine. But you don't get to tell people that they do not have the intelligence to understand what you are saying, because they happen to disagree with you.

And this was in response to someone saying that we do not have all the answers yet, but that it, like everything else, will evolve when more information comes to light, when we learn more.

So it is pretty clear that you have no actual intention of discussing this with anyone and you are not interested in listening to what anyone has to say. Therefore, I am closing the thread.
 
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