It seems premisses are holding some peoples minds back , oh well .....
My friend atheroy , you seem to be totally loosing yourself in here . Lets rewind for a moment . I dont know where your 10 posts are coming from , but no 10 posts of you have I read *explaining* how your omniscient creature might have implemented a meaning you dont understand , I know that . It is you however who doesnt understand that *figuratie understandings* can just as well be understood as much as not understood . You say we cant know the meaning because we cant be in the mind of your omniscient creator , while I say you dont KNOW weither you can go in or not , maybe you're stuck in it 24/7 and you dont KNOW this . Dont pretend you are the skeptic here who *cant know* , because I say you cant even know weither you know or not know . You know shit and you might not even know it . So if you know shit , then how can you know that you cannot know this meaning ? You say X to me figurative . But figurative is shit for you , you are omniscient you have abracadabr-concepts , so if man can understand this X literally , why not figurative ? Because you're not in his mind ? Then you dont even know if literal is indeed literal , since you are not in his infinit (while you are finit , somehow I do think you dont really understand the difference completely) , then how can you claim that you do by differating it from the formative ? You cant even know the difference since you are not in the mind of the creator of the difference . Your problem however is that when the bible say : "Rocks fall from sky" , what you understand is object called rock comes down from above , you can PLAY IT OUT like its some damn musical . Thats fine , but what Im saying is that all you know is that SOMETHING is said . You dont even know weither your literal understanding can even be equalized with that of your omniscient creature , since like you say :
You dont know what the author's mind was at that moment. . Dont forget space .
So know do YOU get it ?
learn how to spell if you want to put someone else down as well.
Get serious please , what is your damn point ? Your anglo-centric view of communication only restricts your own mind , lets not doubt that my linguistics are FAR superior over yours , you native-tongued semi-colonist .
More importantly however , is your linkage to some kind of necessity in
put someone else down (actually Im trying to pull you back up , you are the insulting one here) and *spelling* , who are you kidding ? Spelling is a totally over-rated nothing but a damn teqneek technique teknik wo cares ? Its totally useless in relevance to how you are trying to present it , I bet you're some grammar-teacher somewhere in Christchurch , PLEASE .......... you only make an ass out of yourself ..you damn potáeto potaato PLEASE
Now back to your deity-fantasies :
the difference between literal and figurative (seeing i'm having to spell things out here) is literal is what we know, we can touch or smell, or has physically defining properties.
Now how exactly do you know that we KNOW weither God has intended literal to be as we understand literal to be . Let me give you a nice example of how the creator/messenger can mean something other than what then eceiver understands and it totally mixes up the concepts of figurative-literal . The example HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN , but you seem immuune to that , its ok , we will try to inject it to you in a new and promising way .
LOOK :
Here we had a receiver : Vodoo : He received
2:10 Then David passed away1 and was buried in the city of David.2 2:11 David reigned over Israel forty years; he reigned in Hebron seven years, and in Jerusalem thirty-three years.
In a different bible version (yes another issue which one is correct and why ?) which uses the words *sleeping with* and concluded :
He slept with his father? Dude, that's just sick.
Now we we bring back things , literally sleeping with DOES NOT mean what Voodoo thought it ment . It is here actually a figurative meaning Voodoo understands , while a more literary one is meant . You see Voodoo misunderstood the literal meaning for figurative , juist like you might do with about EVERYTHING that the bible says because you might not have knowledge of it (* I also wonder if origins matter (Greek-Latin) in any way?Then I , wonder who knows these languages , or do we just trust Shake-Spear?)
But there is more even , now does sleeping with have this literal meaning as it is proposed , no it HAS NOT . That is because sleeping can only be done while alive , thus sleeping is figuratve since the man is DEAD . Get it ? Totally screwed , this literal-figurative understanding of yours ..
when it says in the bible it took god six days to create the earth do you think they thought "oh yeah, seeing it doesn't specifically say what a day is i'll just interpret it to how i like". HELL NO. a day is a day, no matter where you live on this planet, why would god make it otherwise when this is a book for the people of earth?
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ON THIS PLANET*
Is your omniscient entity stuck to this peace of shitty understanding of things ?Face it , you know shit . And your God seems to know everything , does he not own space-time ? Or is he subject to it ?
Now as for , "ake it otherwise when this is book for peoples of earth"....... how do you know the peoples the scriptures have been created for directly dont have a totally different understanding of figurative , or what if they have a superior enough understanding for God to trust them to understand this meaning , what if back then figurative was what everybody understood and literal what they tried to figure out , my point , you cannot know the minds of the peoples that directly created/received the scriptures .
just like how the bible lays out the whole scenario between adam and eve and noah and his arch. i make no claim to no the figurative side of the bible but so many of you dispute what is or was supposed to be clearly literal is twisted by you guys to fit in with your own little universe's where you have chat time with god and obviously think way to much of yourselves that your worth his personal time.
Slow down man , can you even follow yourself ? Yak what was that an emotional outburst ?
Adam & Eve right ? According the literal understandings of the bible Adam and Eve had an incest-peoples-family where we all come from right ? Also , I wonder on time.....since you just seem to love time-understandings so much ....... so the world is 6000 years old ? Yes ? Saying yes implies a neceserity of re-consideration what exactly we can consider within the human species from an evolutionary perspective .
Anyways , thanks for your time to read this . Im awaiting your response , I do hope this time you CAN make a point ......
