Supernova From Experimentation At Fermilab

SUPERNOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATION AT FERMILAB, CERN, BROOKHAVEN AND LOS ALAMOS

It may be helpful to clarify the philosophical position and astrophysical energetics instrinsic to de Sitter space in the standard cosmological model in this postulation of transition from de Sitter space as generative of supernova in high-energy physics experimentation. Please review the large values derived in this connection.

A philosophical position may be cited from, G. W. F. Hegel (The philosophy of history, New York: Dover, 249, 1956) ..." there is no essential existence which does not manifest itself." The very large energies derived by Willem de Sitter for the equations describing the false vacuum of de Sitter space yield an energy density of 1.69 x 10^126 for eV (electron volts) per cm^3. (Gott, R. (1982) Creation of open universes from de Sitter space, Nature, 295, 304-307. In Waldrop. M.M., (1982) Bubbles upon the river of time, Science, 215, 4536, 1082-1083), the energy density of de Sitter space is given as: 5 x 10^31 kelvin and 3 x 10^93 grams per cm^3 , converted to eV via e=mc^2 which is Albert Einstein's famous equation. This energy would then find expression in the observable universe. In the sense of this analysis, it would be quite unlikely that energies of this order of magnitude would remain hidden should a transition be formed in the potential barrier towards de Sitter space. This would serve as an immediate and ever present danger for the investigator and constitutes a public endangerment as well.

This is based on the mainstream theory of universe formation by Professor R. Gott of Princeton University in which each bubble universe forms smoothly out of de Sitter space. A potentially infinite number of universes may form in de Sitter space. In a topological sense, de Sitter space is cobordant at each point with the continuum (our universe). De Sitter space is then prevented by a large potential barrier from forming an intrusional event into the continuum. The essential hypothesis of this formulation is that with sufficiently great energetics, a classical breach in the potential barrier towards de Siitter space will be formed thus releasing the force of Type Ia supernova upon the terrestrial ecosphere, the solar system and those nearby stars. These energies are from de Sitter space, therefore; the energies of the accelerator only serve as a trigger for their release.

With sufficient energies, under this postulation, we discover that the accelerator is in the Einstein de Sitter universe, as it is now termed, and we have gone from particle physics as our governing theory to relativistic cosmology.

No harm will result from computer modelling of this alternate hypothesis for generation of Type Ia supernovae as a result of the formation of a transition towards de Sitter space. Yet clearly, vast harm may result form our continuing to plunge into the unknown without proper foresight concerning this possibility.

All the children will thank you for your kind efforts on their behalf.

Every Best Wish !!!

Yours sincerely,

Paul W. Dixion, Ph.D.
Supernova from Experimentation
 
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fadingCaptain said:
...http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/823924.aspx
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From this link I learned:

"...The case is currently being handled by the U.S. attorney's office in Hawaii, where Wagner and Sancho both live,`but that may not necessarily be where the legal proceedings end up. The Justice Department's Environmental and Natural Resources Division, based in Washington, is also being brought in on the case ..."

Who is Walter's co-filler, Luis Sancho? Is he ever active poster here?

Everyone should open link and expand the photo full screen. Certainly a beautiful thing to see (but so are super novas ;)). Most who look at the photo, will see it as a 3D object. People who have lived in a dense forest all their life probably do not. (This is based on some studies of their perception I have read.) I tried hard to see photo as the 2D object with 8 fold symmetry that they would experience and briefly I almost did. Try to. Then you see this "tiny man" stuck between two legs of a giant spider. He is in big trouble!

That is “2D image realism” instead our common “3D illusion.” I hope the "Big Trouble for man" I briefly saw is not prophetic.

Perhaps there is some merit to Walter's legal action requesting delay. At least they could "work the bugs out" at collision energy already explored at NRL etc. for a few months until the new safety study has been released and reviewed. - MHO, but I think there is no way that Paul's de Sitter space energy pouring thru as type II supernova is possible. For at least two reasons I have posted in this thread before.

(1) No little Dutch boys in de Sitter space to stick fat fingers in the ruptured barrier protecting our universe for that incredible hot high density de Sitter space energy. I.e. if advanced civilization's High Energy nuclear physics experiments "rupture the barrier" and this makes a type II supernovas as Paul claims, it would only happen once with no little "Dutch boy" to hold back the fantastic pressure of de Sitter space.

(2) A few type II supernovas are nearly as old as the universe. The only elements existing when they "flared up" were hydrogen and helium. I do not think it is possible for "advanced civilizations" to be made with only these two gases.

I have also several times mentioned the Man's best collision energy productions efforts are a "drop in the energy bucket" compared to the highest know cosmic rays collisions in the upper atmosphere, but Water is correct in his suggestion that any micro black hole produce by those collisions would at best only capture a few nuclei while passing harmlessly thru the Earth still at least with 99% of the speed of light when the exit out the other side in to the low density of space and Hawking's radiation (probably real, I think.) destroys them before they even get far from Earth.

Man-made micro black holes (by colliding beams) would be basically stationary in the lab frame. Then it is a race between Hawking's radiation destroying them or them eating near-by matter and growing to destroy the Earth, as we know it.

I don't like betting on races, especially when quite a few better educated than me, think the black hole eats Earth "wins" the race by default (I.e. they think that Hawking radiation is just math, not real, would be a "no show" at the race track.)
 
Did not see this posted here...Is that our Walter?

Asking a Judge to Save the World, and Maybe a Whole Lot More

New York Times....Excerpt:

More fighting in Iraq. Somalia in chaos. People in this country can’t afford their mortgages and in some places now they can’t even afford rice.

None of this nor the rest of the grimness on the front page today will matter a bit, though, if two men pursuing a lawsuit in federal court in Hawaii turn out to be right. They think a giant particle accelerator that will begin smashing protons together outside Geneva this summer might produce a black hole that will spell the end of the Earth — and maybe the universe.

Scientists say that is very unlikely — though they have done some checking just to make sure.

The world’s physicists have spent 14 years and $8 billion building the Large Hadron Collider, in which the colliding protons will recreate energies and conditions last seen a trillionth of a second after the Big Bang. Researchers will sift the debris from these primordial recreations for clues to the nature of mass and new forces and symmetries of nature.

But Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sancho contend that scientists at the European Center for Nuclear Research, or CERN, have played down the chances that the collider could produce, among other horrors, a tiny black hole, which, they say, could eat the Earth. Or it could spit out something called a “strangelet” that would convert our planet to a shrunken dense dead lump of something called “strange matter.” Their suit also says CERN has failed to provide an environmental impact statement as required under the National Environmental Policy Act.

Although it sounds bizarre, the case touches on a serious issue that has bothered scholars and scientists in recent years — namely how to estimate the risk of new groundbreaking experiments and who gets to decide whether or not to go ahead.
 
SUPERNOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATION AT FERMILAB, CERN, BROOKHAVEN AND LOS ALAMOS

Consonant with the hypothesis that there should be a plethora of planetary system similar to our own we may note:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7333155.stm

Thus with the hypothesis of the uniformity of nature over the observable universe, it may be possible to discover planetry systems suitable for the development of technologically sophisticated civilizations capable of generating Type Ia Supernovae. The above cited reference would inidcate this possiblity.

All the chilkdren will thank you for your kind efforts on their behalf.

Yours sincerely,

Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
Supernova from Experimentation
 
you know whats going to make me laugh? When this actually does happen...and that split second I will be like "wow so they were right..."
 
Isn't more likely that when the machine is first switched on, energies will be too low to cause a supernova, but large enough to cause signifcant local temporal distortions due to matter reaction at relativistic velocities?

That might be quite interesting......tell me I'm wrong, I'm a hubble biochemist
 
Alan A Keeling said:
Isn't more likely that when the machine is first switched on, energies will be too low to cause a supernova, but large enough to cause signifcant local temporal distortions due to matter reaction at relativistic velocities?

That might be quite interesting......tell me I'm wrong, I'm a hubble biochemist
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hey actually back in Russia there are like these dudes in a cult that believes an Apocalypse will come in May 2008...so they went into these self-digged caves in ground and now are staying there to survive this Apocalypse they say will come in May 2008 :p ...
 
draqon said:
hey actually back in Russia there are like these dudes in a cult that believes an Apocalypse will come in May 2008...so they went into these self-digged caves in ground and now are staying there to survive this Apocalypse they say will come in May 2008 :p ...
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Haha...it obviously wasn't the LHC they were worried about, then....unless the caves they were hiding in are in the Andromeda galaxy...hooho
 
The most likely result is that the LHC will do nothing more then over-work thousand of cpu's trying to crunch the data it gives off. Although if you were in the beams way it would blow though you like a death ray, even if you were near it the radiation would be lethal just from a few seconds exposure.

Fun fact is cosmic rays hit the earth every second with energies we can only dream of creating, were talking a single atom with the force of a well thrown rock! and as yet none of these things have cause the end of the world, at best they kill an array of brain cells in a astronaut or make a flash of light in his eye ball.
 
ElectricFetus said:
Fun fact is cosmic rays hit the earth every second with energies we can only dream of creating, were talking a single atom with the force of a well thrown rock! and as yet none of these things have cause the end of the world, at best they kill an array of brain cells in a astronaut or make a flash of light in his eye ball.
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Yes, but what would happen if the earth were travelling at 99.99% c in the opposite direction of the cosmic rays?
 
Alan A Keeling said:
Yes, but what would happen if the earth were travelling at 99.99% c in the opposite direction of the cosmic rays?
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Nothing. Lets look at it like this: some of those cosmic rays are traveling at 99.9999%C and they hit a moving earth going at relative speed to them of ~80km/s (.0003%C) add that together and you reach the mysterious faster then light combined speed of 100.0002% and nothing happens, I don't think ~200% the speed of light is going to change anything: We have been hitting particles with combined speeds of 199%C for some time now with accelerators and nothing has happened.
 
I also doubt the fleet of thousands of real physicists working on the LHC would be doing so if they had even a remote amount of proof the LHC would end the world.........
Or perhaps, maybe they're all a part of a great big suicide pack......;)


I'm more inclined to believe the "expert scientists" and other people pushing this "End of the World" theory have put 2 and 2 together and keep getting 7.
 
Let's hear the physicists on the site say that this guy is on crack, because I have to sleep tonight and I don't understand what's going to happen.

So: a vote for crack is a vote for a happy Geoff. Etc.

Geoff
 
Geoff- I think the physicists voted that Paul Dixon was a nutter at least 3 or 4 years ago. Nobody comes onto this thread now except those of us interested in nutters.
 
Excellent!

But I'll have you know if the solar system is reduced to atoms, you'll be colliding with my lawyer. :bugeye:

Probably, anyway.
 
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