Star Wars vs. Babylon 5 -- Round Two of the Scifi competition

[Sarkus]

Yet Babylon 5 was far more , far more than just fire power . Anybody that has watched the series knows this .

Babylon 5 is about finding our own way . Both the Vorlons and the Shadows were kick out of our space . The first one lead them both away from us into space . We are now on our own , Humanity .

You mean apart from the Centauri, the Minbari, the Narn, and the many other minor races that were on show during the series?
The whole purpose of Babylon 5 (the space station) was an attempt to be a meeting place for the many races, a neutral place for diplomacy and trade, given the many inter-species wars. With humanity being the mediators / facilitators etc. It was as far from being about humanity being on our own as you could get.

 

[river]

river said: ↑
Yet Babylon 5 was far more , far more than just fire power . Anybody that has watched the series knows this .

Babylon 5 is about finding our own way . Both the Vorlons and the Shadows were kick out of our space . The first one lead them both away from us into space . We are now on our own , Humanity .

You mean apart from the Centauri, the Minbari, the Narn, and the many other minor races that were on show during the series?
The whole purpose of Babylon 5 (the space station) was an attempt to be a meeting place for the many races, a neutral place for diplomacy and trade, given the many inter-species wars. With humanity being the mediators / facilitators etc. It was as far from being about humanity being on our own as you could get.

Alone as in the , Shadows and Vorlons influence is no longer present . We'll have to figure this out on our own .

 

[Sarkus]

Alone as in the , Shadows and Vorlons influence is no longer present . We'll have to figure this out on our own .

Along with the Minbari, the Centauri, the Narn, and all the other species. I.e. NOT alone.

 

[river]

river said: ↑
Alone as in the , Shadows and Vorlons influence is no longer present . We'll have to figure this out on our own .

Along with the Minbari, the Centauri, the Narn, and all the other species. I.e. NOT alone.

Alone , from a Humans perspective . None are Humans . No supreme beings , powers to interfere . On our behalf .

 

[DaveC426913]

Alone , from a Humans perspective . None are Humans . No supreme beings , powers to interfere . On our behalf .

That definition of "alone" has the unusual distinction of never having been tried before.

 

[river]

river said: ↑
Alone , from a Humans perspective . None are Humans . No supreme beings , powers to interfere . On our behalf .

That definition of "alone" has the unusual distinction of never having been tried before.

It hasn't .

 

[DaveC426913]

It hasn't .

I know. That's because it's nonsensical. And most people like to be ... sensical.

 

[river]

I know. That's because it's nonsensical. And most people like to be ... sensical.

Fine

But supreme beings are about themselves . Not Humanity .

 

[DaveC426913]

Fine
But supreme beings are about themselves . Not Humanity .

No one is talking about supreme beings except you.

 

[river]

No one is talking about supreme beings except you.

Because they haven't watched the series . Babylon 5

The First One , then the other two , are supreme beings . They are supreme beings , all three of them .

 

[Sarkus]

Alone , from a Humans perspective . None are Humans . No supreme beings , powers to interfere . On our behalf .

None ever were humans. None were supreme beings - merely ancient races.
And as for interfering - given that we (humanity) didn't know that we were being interfered with, there is no difference between then and the absence of the interference. So that wouldn't contribute to humanity being "alone". Plus you still have every other race in the galaxy to contend with - so still no "alone".

The First One , then the other two , are supreme beings . They are supreme beings , all three of them .

No, none of them were "supreme beings". They were just ancient, and among the first to gain sentience in the universe / galaxy - putting them possibly billions of years ahead of the younger races. Nothing "supreme"about them (plus given that "supreme being" is generally reserved for deities). Just old.

 

[river]

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Alone , from a Humans perspective . None are Humans . No supreme beings , powers to interfere . On our behalf .

None ever were humans. None were supreme beings - merely ancient races.
And as for interfering - given that we (humanity) didn't know that we were being interfered with, there is no difference between then and the absence of the interference. So that wouldn't contribute to humanity being "alone". Plus you still have every other race in the galaxy to contend with - so still no "alone".

Agreed

Alone in the sense of our own decisions . And Actions .