OK, based on what i've learnt, what i see arround me in the world and my own spirituality I am convinced and cannot help but think we have fallen from a previous state of grace.
I have to bring God into this thread which I have concluded using logic and reason exists. If you don't believe in God then for the purpose of this thread can you make the suposition that there is a higher order in the universe and at the top of the hieriarchy there is someone in charge. I don't beleive consciousness would have arrisen if it were not for someone who first introduced it. I believe this same person tweaked like to a stage where we could communicate with each other and express ourselves.
Now I want you to imagine that we existed previously in a state of grace, just as a hypothesis for now. Now logically speaking assuming there is a God or at least someone in charge then surely his agenda is happiness for all right. Now take a snapshot of earth as it is , we have pain and suffering, famine, war, torture, poverty, murder and to top it off it is we often keep innocent animals especially cattle in terribly confined conditions. Now I don't believe a compasionate God or leader would allow harm to come to humans or animals in the doses it has done in any shape or form. Now if you believe in karma you could play that card in defense of God and blame the woes of the individual on their previous acts, but there is no way 6 billion human and untold 10's billions of animal entities have all been 'bad'. IOW we are all suffering together, suffering for real and also suffering because we are not in a state of grace. So the question is why are we not in a state of grace?
OK now here is where I'm serious as to the possible why. What if the big bang was not the first spark of life/action/cause/movement but rather was an accident. IOW the physical laws were already in place and the elements already born before the big bang. But something caused all of space time including God to converge on one tiny point in space. What could have caused that convergence? So far I only have one answer that jumps out logically......an anomoly caused the big bang. An anomoly caused consciousness, life, light and the elements to converge on one point. The alternative to an anomoly is that it was a conscious effort by all, an out with the old in with the new hypothesis. The other hypothesis is this - something went terribly wrong, and that is what interests me. Now previous to the big bang I suspect that the universe was like an ocean and we communicated telepathically, also mind and matter were one. Thoughts (as I believe they still do) travelled faster than the speed of light and we were able to communicate over vast distances instantly. There was no chaos only trial after trial with God as the Conductor/General. Now I have 2 propositions for what may have gone wrong and I'd like to hear your comments.
1. For the first time the universe as it was then (or maybe there was no universe but only space and consciousness) experienced the force of a black hole which sucked all of space time into it, critical mass was reached and bang you have the most almighty explosion ever. This for me explains why matter is so dense to the touch compared with dreams and OOB experiences where the individual can actually pass through matter.
2. In our state of grace (pre big-bang) we first experienced a nagative traight in out midsts for example hate evil fear etc. This spread through existance like a drop of black paint in a tin of white and cause a cataclismic breakdown of all sytems leading to the pre big bang convergence and the reformation of existence and our loss of memory and awareness of our previous state.
So how do we fix the problem we have at hand with the current state of affairs and being so far removed from a state of grace, I think we've suffered long enough. If we do nothing there is a possibility us and the generations to come will become trapped here, or at least in this universe and the world will just become one giant recylcling bin. knowledge is key here and I truly believe we have to take some leaps of faith combined with known science and history if we are to succeed in our quest for true happiness. Any thoughts?
P.S. - Maybe God hasn't answered us or given proof of his existence because he's in the same mess we are!
I have to bring God into this thread which I have concluded using logic and reason exists. If you don't believe in God then for the purpose of this thread can you make the suposition that there is a higher order in the universe and at the top of the hieriarchy there is someone in charge. I don't beleive consciousness would have arrisen if it were not for someone who first introduced it. I believe this same person tweaked like to a stage where we could communicate with each other and express ourselves.
Now I want you to imagine that we existed previously in a state of grace, just as a hypothesis for now. Now logically speaking assuming there is a God or at least someone in charge then surely his agenda is happiness for all right. Now take a snapshot of earth as it is , we have pain and suffering, famine, war, torture, poverty, murder and to top it off it is we often keep innocent animals especially cattle in terribly confined conditions. Now I don't believe a compasionate God or leader would allow harm to come to humans or animals in the doses it has done in any shape or form. Now if you believe in karma you could play that card in defense of God and blame the woes of the individual on their previous acts, but there is no way 6 billion human and untold 10's billions of animal entities have all been 'bad'. IOW we are all suffering together, suffering for real and also suffering because we are not in a state of grace. So the question is why are we not in a state of grace?
OK now here is where I'm serious as to the possible why. What if the big bang was not the first spark of life/action/cause/movement but rather was an accident. IOW the physical laws were already in place and the elements already born before the big bang. But something caused all of space time including God to converge on one tiny point in space. What could have caused that convergence? So far I only have one answer that jumps out logically......an anomoly caused the big bang. An anomoly caused consciousness, life, light and the elements to converge on one point. The alternative to an anomoly is that it was a conscious effort by all, an out with the old in with the new hypothesis. The other hypothesis is this - something went terribly wrong, and that is what interests me. Now previous to the big bang I suspect that the universe was like an ocean and we communicated telepathically, also mind and matter were one. Thoughts (as I believe they still do) travelled faster than the speed of light and we were able to communicate over vast distances instantly. There was no chaos only trial after trial with God as the Conductor/General. Now I have 2 propositions for what may have gone wrong and I'd like to hear your comments.
1. For the first time the universe as it was then (or maybe there was no universe but only space and consciousness) experienced the force of a black hole which sucked all of space time into it, critical mass was reached and bang you have the most almighty explosion ever. This for me explains why matter is so dense to the touch compared with dreams and OOB experiences where the individual can actually pass through matter.
2. In our state of grace (pre big-bang) we first experienced a nagative traight in out midsts for example hate evil fear etc. This spread through existance like a drop of black paint in a tin of white and cause a cataclismic breakdown of all sytems leading to the pre big bang convergence and the reformation of existence and our loss of memory and awareness of our previous state.
So how do we fix the problem we have at hand with the current state of affairs and being so far removed from a state of grace, I think we've suffered long enough. If we do nothing there is a possibility us and the generations to come will become trapped here, or at least in this universe and the world will just become one giant recylcling bin. knowledge is key here and I truly believe we have to take some leaps of faith combined with known science and history if we are to succeed in our quest for true happiness. Any thoughts?
P.S. - Maybe God hasn't answered us or given proof of his existence because he's in the same mess we are!