So... this is it?

As a naturalist, i do not believe in a god or divine power of any sort. However, I was a christian for many years. I find that my loss of god has been a very positive thing in my life, however I still am having trouble coming to terms that when we die.. were just dead. I know thats how it is, and since we wont be conceous it really wont matter once we are, but while i am still alive it makes me a bit uneasy i suppose. Anyone else feel this way?

I think you are too stuck up in pre-made philosophies. Just because you stopped believing in religion doesn't mean that life after "death" don't exist, the two has practically nothing to do with eachother.
The energy you are composed of goes somewhere else when the body can no longer sustain it's existance.
 
The energy you are composed of goes somewhere else when the body can no longer sustain it's existance.

Of course...energy can't be created or destroyed, just changed.

But you're implying that it remains in the same organized state, that being a persona. There's no evidence of this. It dissipates into the environment just as any energy that has its power source removed.
 
Of course...energy can't be created or destroyed, just changed.

But you're implying that it remains in the same organized state, that being a persona. There's no evidence of this. It dissipates into the environment just as any energy that has its power source removed.

I did not imply that, you interpreted it that way because you wanted it to be like that, so that your planned argument would seem valid and important.

Anyway, how we know in what way the energy continues its existance after leaving the body? It can stay together or dissipate, or something in between, or beyond. If it for example disintegrates into the collective energy of planet, then it becomes a part of a larger body than before and perhaps also gets access to a larger consciousness, and here I am implying that the planet has a consciousness, but of course there is no proof of that. Maybe there is, but not that I have time to elaborate at the moment.
 
. . . . I still am having trouble coming to terms that when we die.. were just dead. I know thats how it is, and since we wont be conceous it really wont matter once we are, but while i am still alive it makes me a bit uneasy i suppose.
This is why a sense of community is so important. Civilization has been advancing for twelve thousand years--although not monotonically, there have been some stunning reversals. The reason it advances is that, on the average, everyone puts a little more into it than they take out.

Some people don't manage to do that for various reasons, such as physical or mental weakness or plain old bad luck. And a small number of people are selfish sociopaths who take without giving. But as long as the majority of people try, human culture will continue to evolve.

While you're alive, you should be proud to be a cell in this magnificent super-organism we call civilization. And you should manifest that pride in your effort to contribute. This does not mean that you don't get to have fun and enjoy life, but in modern life with its excess of leisure time over work time, you'll still have plenty of time, energy and other resources to do a little something for the benefit of everyone.

Then as you approach death you can look back on what you've done for the whole human race, and be content that you've made the most of your life.

The only people who angrily regret the inevitability of death (in adulthood that is; children can be forgiven for not understanding the universe, although paradoxically they are the ones who court danger) are the selfish ones. They want just one more doughnut, one more beautiful sunset, one more ski vacation, one more love affair. People who don't look back with contentment on their achievements are usually the ones who haven't tried to achieve anything.

Of course I'm giving short shrift to the people who tried and failed through no fault of their own. And to the people whose lives are cut short by tragedy. It's not easy to find the words to say to those people and I'm glad you (apparently) are not one of them.

My wife and I don't have children and we've had no trouble accomplishing things we're proud of anyway. But most people try to raise children they can be proud of, and this is said to be a tremendous comfort at the end of life. This is why it's been argued, and IMHO never refuted convincingly, that the absolute worst fate that can befall a human being is to have his child die while he is still alive. We have one friend to whom that happened, and by golly we can think of nothing to say to her except the empty words, "I'm sorry."
 
don't be talking sh*t about the Doctor..

he preempts everything for me..i will even give up a new episode of star trek (well,when there was a thing as a new episode of star trek) to watch the Doctor..

lets put it this way..i was watching scyfy channel and seen the commercial for the new episode of Doctor Who,which was coming on that saturday night..3 hours away..and me with only basic cable (bbc channels doesn't come with basic,only digital and above) 1 hour and it was upgraded so i could watch the Doctor..

that show is not limited by ANY rules..the storys can be anything..
and why is Doctor who so afraid of the Daleks? he wins everytime...:shrug:
 
If you worry about dying then you are forgetting about living! Uneasy, well you won't feel a thing it is just like when you go to sleep but you just don't wake up. Those around you should be told to remember your life and how you celebrated living, not be saddened by your death. :)

Well said:D

Anarcho,

You've got to realize how lucky you are to be even born! And born at a time of such awakening consciousness and freedom. So do the most you can, don't feel uneasy but feel triumphant that you've gone through life applying all tools you can to understand the cosmos from which we originate.
 
Tom Baker remains THE Doctor Who for me, though.

I'd agree 150% ! He did a damn great job and was the best at developing that character to its pinnacle. Everyone since him are only wanna beees that never equaled his wit and wisdom.
 
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