Cuz i seem 2 b the only one!
So is anyone on here from England?
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nah... there's loads of Brits or ex Brits here mate! I'm originally from London but I live in Cyprus.
no, but i am from Scotland.
Official Flag of Scotland
History Of the flag:
Legend says that in 832 AD, an army of Scots was facing a Northumbrian army. The Scottish king prayed to St Andrew for help, and saw the saltire of St Andrew (the saint had been martyred on a diagonal cross) in the heavens against a clear blue sky. On seeing the cross in the sky, he swore that if the Scots beat the English in the battle that was about to be joined, then St Andrew would forever be the patron saint of Scotland
The Scots did in fact win the battle, and from that day on the saltire has been the national flag of Scotland.
Scottish Royal Flag.
History of the Flag:
There is a second flag which is associated with Scotland, the "Rampant Lion", or Royal Flag of Scotland. Although based on an older Scottish flag than the St. Andrew's Cross, it should, strictly speaking, now only be used by the monarch in relation to her capacity as Queen in Scotland¹. However, it is widely used as a second national flag.
The Rampant Lion flag flies over the offices of the Secretary of State for Scotland (who is the representative of the U.K. government in Scotland); that is Dover House in London and New St Andrew's House in Edinburgh.
King George V signed a Royal Warrant in 1934 allowing the use of the Rampant Lion flag as "a mark of loyalty" because of the forthcoming Jubilee celebrations. The Lord Lyon² officially now takes the view that this permission "related to decorative ebullition", that is, it is permissable to wave the flag at football matches. It is however not allowable to fly the flag without permission, on a flag-pole or from a building. The Lord Lyon once threatened the town councillors of Cumbernauld with an Act passed in 1679 which prescribed the death penalty for mis-use of the royal arms.
O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare now,
And Autumn leaves
lie thick and still,
O'er land that is lost now,
Which those so dearly held,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Those days are past now,
And in the past
they must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
0 Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Background Info
Flower Of Scotland was written in 1970 by folk musician Roy Williamson. The song grew in popularity and was used as Scotland's anthem by the Scottish Rugby Union in the mid 1970s. The stirring anthem was then adopted as the anthem for the national football team in place of "Scotland the Brave".
It is by far the the most popular of the Scottish anthems, but it is not recognised by the state or used at any state occasions.
The most rousing renditions of "Flower of Scotland" tend to come at Murrayfield Stadium when 65,000 rugby fans sing it accompanied by pipes and drums before international matches.
The Official anthem used at United Kingdom state occasions and Royal events is "God Save the Queen". The Official anthem is unpopular but the government hasn't changed it to something more appropriate. Scottish institutions like churches and universities sometimes use "God Save the Queen" during ceremonial occassions. Many people view it as an English anthem and point to anti-Scottish verses:
"O, Lord our God Arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fail.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On him our hopes are fixed,
God Save us all"
"God grant that Marshal Wade,
May by that mighty aid,
Victory Bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King."
Others disagree with it because of its obvious pro-monarchy sentiment.
Thank You and Good Night. I'll leave you with a quote.
"Everywhere I go in the world people want to know about Scotland and why we tolerate our affairs being run by someone elses government" -Sean Connery.
and another
"The most prosperous region of England is Scotland" -Richard Ottaway, Tory MP, 1994
Cheers.
Official Flag of Scotland
History Of the flag:
Legend says that in 832 AD, an army of Scots was facing a Northumbrian army. The Scottish king prayed to St Andrew for help, and saw the saltire of St Andrew (the saint had been martyred on a diagonal cross) in the heavens against a clear blue sky. On seeing the cross in the sky, he swore that if the Scots beat the English in the battle that was about to be joined, then St Andrew would forever be the patron saint of Scotland
The Scots did in fact win the battle, and from that day on the saltire has been the national flag of Scotland.
Scottish Royal Flag.
History of the Flag:
There is a second flag which is associated with Scotland, the "Rampant Lion", or Royal Flag of Scotland. Although based on an older Scottish flag than the St. Andrew's Cross, it should, strictly speaking, now only be used by the monarch in relation to her capacity as Queen in Scotland¹. However, it is widely used as a second national flag.
The Rampant Lion flag flies over the offices of the Secretary of State for Scotland (who is the representative of the U.K. government in Scotland); that is Dover House in London and New St Andrew's House in Edinburgh.
King George V signed a Royal Warrant in 1934 allowing the use of the Rampant Lion flag as "a mark of loyalty" because of the forthcoming Jubilee celebrations. The Lord Lyon² officially now takes the view that this permission "related to decorative ebullition", that is, it is permissable to wave the flag at football matches. It is however not allowable to fly the flag without permission, on a flag-pole or from a building. The Lord Lyon once threatened the town councillors of Cumbernauld with an Act passed in 1679 which prescribed the death penalty for mis-use of the royal arms.
O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare now,
And Autumn leaves
lie thick and still,
O'er land that is lost now,
Which those so dearly held,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Those days are past now,
And in the past
they must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
0 Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Background Info
Flower Of Scotland was written in 1970 by folk musician Roy Williamson. The song grew in popularity and was used as Scotland's anthem by the Scottish Rugby Union in the mid 1970s. The stirring anthem was then adopted as the anthem for the national football team in place of "Scotland the Brave".
It is by far the the most popular of the Scottish anthems, but it is not recognised by the state or used at any state occasions.
The most rousing renditions of "Flower of Scotland" tend to come at Murrayfield Stadium when 65,000 rugby fans sing it accompanied by pipes and drums before international matches.
The Official anthem used at United Kingdom state occasions and Royal events is "God Save the Queen". The Official anthem is unpopular but the government hasn't changed it to something more appropriate. Scottish institutions like churches and universities sometimes use "God Save the Queen" during ceremonial occassions. Many people view it as an English anthem and point to anti-Scottish verses:
"O, Lord our God Arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fail.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On him our hopes are fixed,
God Save us all"
"God grant that Marshal Wade,
May by that mighty aid,
Victory Bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King."
Others disagree with it because of its obvious pro-monarchy sentiment.
Thank You and Good Night. I'll leave you with a quote.
"Everywhere I go in the world people want to know about Scotland and why we tolerate our affairs being run by someone elses government" -Sean Connery.
and another
"The most prosperous region of England is Scotland" -Richard Ottaway, Tory MP, 1994
Cheers.
Firefly...
a few years ago I produced a great drum n bass type track called Firefly, on my Atari... just thought you should know that.
I was actually born in Cyprus and my wife is from there too and we always wanted to live here because of the climate. Luckily we were able to retire in our thirties and so we moved. Both places feel like home to me.
a few years ago I produced a great drum n bass type track called Firefly, on my Atari... just thought you should know that.
I was actually born in Cyprus and my wife is from there too and we always wanted to live here because of the climate. Luckily we were able to retire in our thirties and so we moved. Both places feel like home to me.
Lord_Tigersloth
Registered Senior Member
Firefly
I am English too! Also, I would just like to say that firefly is, in fact, a real song. It was only done recently i think, by a group called Inme. They are really good live!
I am English too! Also, I would just like to say that firefly is, in fact, a real song. It was only done recently i think, by a group called Inme. They are really good live!