Sing a song for Darfur?
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um, yeah they help.
Do you remember these Sam?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_Aid_(band)
I dont remember LiveAid but i liked the Bob Geldof tune...
http://www.herald.co.uk/local_info/live_aid.html
Do you remember these Sam?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_Aid_(band)
I dont remember LiveAid but i liked the Bob Geldof tune...
http://www.herald.co.uk/local_info/live_aid.html
Raised awareness.
It goes where they say it will go.
I am not really sure, i was 6 or 7 years old at the time but the song was very good and Bob Geldof also did 'I DON'T LIKE MONDAYS' in 1979 which still is in some ways my favorite song. One of those things where everything comes together to be something really special...magical, supernatural, beyond human capability, touched by the hand of God...
I dont like, li dont like mondays....woo woo woo wooo
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Remember "We are the World?"
I heard that money went to warlords(ethiopia/somalia), not sure if that's true.
I heard that money went to warlords(ethiopia/somalia), not sure if that's true.
I thought your ideals are all about non-interference with the lives of other nations? Now you want someone/some nation/some group to ...interfer with the Ethiopian nation's internal affairs?
Maybe you'd like the USA to go in a straighten out that mess for you, Sam?
Baron Max
I thought your ideals are all about non-interference with the lives of other nations? Now you want someone/some nation/some group to ...interfer with the Ethiopian nation's internal affairs?
Maybe you'd like the USA to go in a straighten out that mess for you, Sam?
Baron Max
I'm just wondering who these benefits really benefit.:shrug:
I forgot that one. Cyndi Lauper (sp), Springsteen and wasn't Neil Young involved?
I thought your ideals are all about non-interference with the lives of other nations? Now you want someone/some nation/some group to ...interfer with the Ethiopian nation's internal affairs?
Maybe you'd like the USA to go in a straighten out that mess for you, Sam?
Baron Max
ha ha ha. the problem is it takes more than money.
Some, but not all, such charitable organizations have open books for everyone to see and read. But for every one of those, there are a gazillion who don't have to show or prove shit to anyone.
So ...in answer to your question ....a good, healthy shrug is probably the closest you'll ever get.
Baron Max
Seems like with all the people willing to help, what is it that keeps problems from being resolved? Where are we going wrong? What should we be doing instead?
I thought your ideals are all about non-interference with the lives of other nations? Now you want someone/some nation/some group to ...interfer with the Ethiopian nation's internal affairs?
Maybe you'd like the USA to go in a straighten out that mess for you, Sam?
Baron Max
Ya, I don't understand why some people want us to help out the oppressed people of darfur. If we did, the same people who told us to go in and help would be complaining about all the lives lost a year later. And they would say we only went in to get diamonds (im not sure if there are diamonds there, i was trying to think of the african equivalent of middle eastern oil). Darfur would be another Iraq, except darfur poses no threat to us where as Iraq, with a little more time, very well could have.
There are different ways to intervene:
1) Actually help the people, eventually helping them to help themselves and become independent from aid.
2) Bomb them and control their resources (self interest) like in Iraq.
Guess which one we would rather see?
1) Actually help the people, eventually helping them to help themselves and become independent from aid.
2) Bomb them and control their resources (self interest) like in Iraq.
Guess which one we would rather see?
After thinking about this(and I've spent some time looking at Darfur on Google earth - recommended - very awful), I keep thinking about what those bastards did to the region when they killed Gordon. They still are feeling the effects of Muslim revolution...what a 150 years ago?
Willing to help, or just saying so because it's the politically correct thing to say? I mean, let's face it, Sam, how would the people of the world react if I went on national tv and said, "Ahh, fuck those damned Darfurians ...they're more fuckin' trouble than they're worth!" Think I'd be re-elected? No, of course not. So people always say the "nice" things, instead of what's so obviously the truth ....I say "truth", because as you can see by reality, no one gives one rats' ass about Darfur.
You tell me, Sam, you brought it all up for discussion.
Me? I think we should drop about ten humongus neutron bombs on the area and forget about it. Or perhaps cut the whole damned nation out, ship it out into the ocean and sink the whole fuckin' thing.
Baron Max
Well, Sam, c'mon, tell us what you think "we" should do? It's your thread, it's your topic, and you seem to know a bit about it. What do you propose "we" do?
And please don't forget your basic ideal of international relations ....non-interference!
Baron Max