To that end, he may simply see that our individual needs can be met, without having to bring religion or spirituality into it. He seems a bit obsessed, though.
Should science replace religion?
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To that end, he may simply see that our individual needs can be met, without having to bring religion or spirituality into it. He seems a bit obsessed, though.
How about this to go along wit you'r questons:::
Over the next hundred years... if people gradually drifted away from ether religion/spiritualism or science/scientific method... which one woud you druther live in... a world wit-out religion or a world wit-out science.???
I woud pick the world wit science sinse i dont have a need for any type of superstition.!!!
That's a great question! It begs another question, would the world be better off without religion, belief in God, spirituality, etc?
If you believe that spirituality is rational and gratifying, then it's difficult to imagine your life without it.
But, a world without science/scientific knowledge would cease to progress and prosper.
For me, I wouldn't be able to choose one over the other, hence in my reality, science and spirituality are necessary for a balanced life. I would feel out of sorts if either were ''taken'' from me.
The part of Buddhism that is religion is the worst bit. I'm not against philosophy or self improvement.
An that queston makes me wonder... from what you know about me... how do thank i woud be beter off if i had beleifs in spirituality.???
Of course. One less thing to fear. One less thing to punish children about. One less thing to waste resources on. One less thing to fight over.
Hmm, I can't answer that for you, since spirituality, faith, and so on are largely subjective experiences. Are you of the opinion that such beliefs are rational or irrational?
I do that in real life
Here Iggy is my friend (over 30 times I think)
Let you know when I get there
Thank you
I did not know that
exchemist
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Well you are clearly trying to be kind to him. I'm afraid I think that having succeeded in science by setting aside (as one must in the practice of science) all thoughts bar rational ones, he has elevated this discipline to a total approach to life, giving it the status of a religion in his own mind, and thinks he can foist it on other people.
Oddly enough, as I was looking for more information on his views, I ran across this article. That's disappointing to read about him.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/3-Revelations-From-the/244887
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I'd say for me, it provides a deeper meaning that enriches my life and gives me a sense of purpose. I believe in God, so it's more than a philosophy for me, although I don't consider myself ''religious'' at all. Prayer, meditation and certain faith affirmations, have led me to confirm my belief in a higher power.
exchemist
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CLUNGGGG!!!! Into the lamp post.
Oh well, it shows he does after all have the same urges - and difficulties controlling them - as those poor benighted people that visit their priest to seek absolution from what they quaintly and absurdly call their "sins".
For myself... doin thangs that lead me to beleive irrational stuff is not somptin i want or need.!!!
But just so you know... you dont sound very harmful
Goldtop
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Wow, so Christians have already decided that the Bible is open for interpretation? I wonder if any Christian could show me the verses stating that they can interpret Gods word to mean whatever they want? I would think God wouldn't be too happy if his word were not taken literally by his alleged followers.
The Scientific Method has been shown to be a valid process for gaining information and knowledge about the world around us. Faith is basically guess work and if you only "feel" it's a path to knowledge, that would show you're not entirely convinced. And, you would remain unconvinced until you actually used faith and it consistently worked. Unfortunately, the only thing consistent about faith is t's capacity to be wrong.
And, I would stand next to you in the regard, but unfortunately, religions have been violating their rights for centuries and continue to do so today and here we are, trying to find solutions to the problems created by theists on our societies. They want their freedoms but they want them at the expense of others freedoms.
This will not do.
Goldtop
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I think the thing is with Krauss is that he asserts that the vast majority of those who you would say have, "a complex inner life that has needs beyond what rationality alone offers" are not valid, in that most of those folks were indoctrinated as children into their religions, which forced on them the concept of needing that which is beyond rationality. He understands those people are already slaves to their faith, shackled to the irrational through inculcation. They are false needs set up by the Church; first in creating the problem (all men are evil through Adam) and provide the solution (saved by Jesus).
Goldtop
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Because it's God's word and God wouldn't want his alleged followers deciding for themselves what to interpret, don't ya think?
But, but, would you choose to put all your eggs in a god who loses control of his own dominion, and pisses off his own children, to the point of total war? Why, that would be like electing a president who can't control his temper and puts his incompetent kids in charge of the country.
I get that gardening.