In Australia the government is trying to pass a law making it legal for gay couples to adopt children. I think this is wrong. I think a child should be brought up in natural surroundings.
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
i am glad i didn't have the same parents as youOriginally posted by Redoubtable
Personally, I'm with Plato and Pollux all the way. Parenting is barbaric; I think the government or community should raise children.
I agree.I think a child should be brought up in natural surroundings.
yeah burn themOriginally posted by DeeCee
I agree.
We should burn alive any kids born in cities!
Dee Cee
How natural is your city?Are you sugesting that having gay parents is as natural as living in the city?
Originally posted by Jolly Rodger
In Australia the government is trying to pass a law making it legal for gay couples to adopt children. I think this is wrong. I think a child should be brought up in natural surroundings.
What are your thoughts?
Originally posted by sisay
really? If I was a starving child that lived on the streets of a big city in Brazil I'd rather choose to be adopted by a gay couple than dying on the streets..
Work hard and you could even become a gay Bishop!I would personally choose the street, at least I have a chance to escape the filth by getting an education and a job.
Originally posted by DeeCee
Work hard and you could even become a gay Bishop!
I guess this means that all adoption is wrong then. Or are you more concerned with the 'natural' situation of 'man + woman' and don't really care about the '+ sex + 9 months' part? What about children who only have a mother or a father but not both? What about children who are orphaned but live with their grandparents? Heck, what about orphanages?Originally posted by Jolly Rodger
Do you really think a little kid would know what was going on if he/she had two dads or two mums, when everyone eles at school had the NATURAL situation at home, meaning man + woman + sex + 9 months.
Would you want that for your children as well; for them to be living on the streets rather than being raised by a caring gay couple?Originally posted by Flores
I would personally choose the street, at least I have a chance to escape the filth by getting an education and a job.
I agree partially : that there is indeed a problem revolving barbarism and that indeed it has founding in parenting and that indeed community/government (assuming capability) should take certain tasks on .Originally posted by Redoubtable
Personally, I'm with Plato and Pollux all the way. Parenting is barbaric; I think the government or community should raise children.
I do not think you represent the suffering child . Why are you so against gays raising children ? Why are you not able to apply your understanding of relativity as you shown in the Hijab issue , to these matters ? I understand that gay raising is not perfection and against our Deen , but letting children suffer in starvation as Ethiopia , war as Liberia or neglection and poverty as in the sewers of Moscow just so that they dont have to suffer being raised by gays contradicts everything Deen stands for , dont you think ?Originally posted by Flores
I would personally choose the street, at least I have a chance to escape the filth by getting an education and a job
1) Surroundings are not natural anyways as DeeCee showed you .Originally posted by Jolly Rodger
In Australia the government is trying to pass a law making it legal for gay couples to adopt children. I think this is wrong. I think a child should be brought up in natural surroundings.
What are your thoughts?
Originally posted by Raithere
Would you want that for your children as well; for them to be living on the streets rather than being raised by a caring gay couple?
~Raithere
Of course he cares!Or are you more concerned with the 'natural' situation of 'man + woman' and don't really care about the '+ sex + 9 months' part?
Yes!A too good and comfortable fake environment will confuse the kids and spoil them....
But does this stand against hardly any chance to survive in sewers sniffing glue , starving or being shot dead/raped by rebels ? Spoil is good in relation to death/destruction .Originally posted by Flores
A too good and comfortable fake environment will confuse the kids and spoil them....
And the glue would do good ? No food would do good ?Their left and right side of the brain would explode due to the contradictions that they will be experiencing.
I think they need lots more meditation and therapy after being gangraped at the age of ten in some refugeecamp , that is if the child would survive ......my kids intuition led them to disagree with the style of their parents life, and it will, because that is the natural correct thought process for any human, they would need plenty of pretty good therapy or Raithere's meditation sessions to recover, understand. and staighten the contradictions in their life..
Reproductive succes is what its all about .Originally posted by Raithere
Aside from your opinion about gays themselves
Perhaps you could elaborate on your concern ?concern over your suggestion regarding the replacement of fathers
Can you quantify this though? You're making a blanket assertion here when, as Ghassan stated, we're dealing with relative values. Even accepting (which I personally do not) that homosexuality is morally wrong aren't there worse situations in which to place a child?Originally posted by Flores
A too good and comfortable fake environment will confuse the kids and spoil them.
What you mean to say is that is would disorient them from your system of morals. Theirs are still in development. And although they will surely be heavily influenced by the morals that you teach them they will not duplicate them exactly.This will burn out the fighter spirit in our children so fast and disorient the coordinate system of their morals.
And how much more therapy would it take to straighten them out if they had to prostitute themselves on the streets when they were 10? What if they die from exposure?If my kids intuition led them to disagree with the style of their parents life, and it will, because that is the natural correct thought process for any human, they would need plenty of pretty good therapy
Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
But does this stand against hardly any chance to survive in sewers sniffing glue , starving or being shot dead/raped by rebels ? Spoil is good in relation to death/destruction . And the glue would do good ? No food would do good ? I think they need lots more meditation and therapy after being gangraped at the age of ten in some refugeecamp , that is if the child would survive ......
Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Why are you so against gays raising children ? Why are you not able to apply your understanding of relativity as you shown in the Hijab issue , to these matters ? I understand that gay raising is not perfection and against our Deen , but letting children suffer in starvation as Ethiopia , war as Liberia or neglection and poverty as in the sewers of Moscow just so that they dont have to suffer being raised by gays contradicts everything Deen stands for , dont you think ?