Should atheism be recognised?

[lightgigantic]

Oh silly me, I thought we were talking about religion.. and the absence of it.

well a social body whose whole identity is flagged by its criticism of a religious body certainly shares a symbiotic existence, don't you think?

 

[Enmos]

well a social body whose whole identity is flagged by its criticism of a religious body certainly shares a symbiotic existence, don't you think?

Are we talking about atheists or satanists ?

 

[lightgigantic]

That certainly fits the evidence. Everytime they form a group, hold television conferences, write books against God, take out public ads, sue against the word God in some public place, they get more recognition.

In India, you barely know they exist.

Sometimes you find them in west bengal (historically seems to be the birth ground/melting pot of all indian politics)

But yeah, it seems it is difficult to find a person in India who feels (in a fully fledged sense) they can live without the mercy of god

 

[Enmos]

But yeah, it seems it is difficult to find a person in India who feels (in a fully fledged sense) they can live without the mercy of god

Have you tried ?

 

[lightgigantic]

Are we talking about atheists or satanists ?

hehe ... depends what soundbite you think satanism would like to fund for public display ...

 

[Enmos]

hehe ... depends what soundbite you think satanism would like to fund for public display ...

Atheism only requires that you don't believe in any God, there's nothing more to it.

 

[lightgigantic]

There's nothing wrong with that is there?

only if one is asserting that by doing so they don't meet the requirements for any other standard social category

 

[S.A.M.]

Sometimes you find them in west bengal (historically seems to be the birth ground/melting pot of all indian politics)

That would explain the communism and bankruptcy, not to mention the exodus of brains

But yeah, it seems it is difficult to find a person in India who feels (in a fully fledged sense) they can live without the mercy of god

True. I have a friend who claims she has no God, but prays frequently. MUCH more than me.

 

[lightgigantic]

Atheism only requires that you don't believe in any God, there's nothing more to it.

it also has the requirement for social expression.

By coming here on sci and participating in threads like this, you demonstrate it.

 

[Enmos]

True. I have a friend who claims she has no God, but prays frequently. MUCH more than me.

To whom ?

 

[Enmos]

it also has the requirement for social expression.

By coming here on sci and participating in threads like this, you demonstrate it.

No, it doesn't. There are legions of atheists that don't come here to express their views.

 

[Bowser]

Agreed, except for the fact that atheists don't have a core belief.
Do you agree that swearing on the bible or kneeling before God would be a hypocritical thing for an atheist to do ?

Core belief that there is no god, that is a commitment to an idea.

I can see where someone who is slavishly committed to an idea might see that as being hypocritical; however, it has no more consequence than participating in any other traditional ceremony. The point of commitment is in your true convictions regarding your actions, and the intent behind them.

 

[lightgigantic]

That would explain the communism and bankruptcy, not to mention the exodus of brains

hehe

True. I have a friend who claims she has no God, but prays frequently. MUCH more than me.

I recall one newstory in WB where an atheist public speaker was killed by a person who angrily drove a truck into his rally (I think the follow up indicated vested financial interests of the perpetrator). The speakers last words were something like "Oi Bhagavan!"

 

[Enmos]

Core belief that there is no god, that is a commitment to an idea.

I can see where someone who is slavishly committed to an idea might see that as being hypocritical; however, it has no more consequence than participating in any other traditional ceremony. The point of commitment is in your true convictions regarding your actions, and the intent behind them.

Nonsense. Atheists do not commit to an idea, theists do.

 

[S.A.M.]

No, it doesn't. There are legions of atheists that don't come here to express their views.

And we don't know them ie we don't recognise them.

 

[lightgigantic]

No, it doesn't. There are legions of atheists that don't come here to express their views.

hehe

it may be humbling to remember that social discourse involves more than sci ... or even bus advertisement campaigns for that matter

 

[Bowser]

it also has the requirement for social expression.

I disagree. Atheism has no requirements. It's purely dependent on the individual and their commitment to the idea.

 

[Enmos]

And we don't know them ie we don't recognise them.

So what ?

hehe

it may be humbling to remember that social discourse involves more than sci ... or even bus advertisement campaigns for that matter

I know plenty of people that don't believe in any God but don't put it in anyones face.

 

[S.A.M.]

So what ?


I know plenty of people that don't believe in any God but don't put it in anyones face.

You just made LGs point.:shrug:

 

[Enmos]

I disagree. Atheism has no requirements. It's purely dependent on the individual and their commitment to the idea.

You are getting this backwards. Theists are the ones that commit to an idea with all the requirements that come with it.