L Lawdog Digging up old bones Registered Senior Member Jul 31, 2005 #21 God, because God is the direct cause of Conversion and the indirect cause of the desire to convert. Not that complex.
God, because God is the direct cause of Conversion and the indirect cause of the desire to convert. Not that complex.
Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member Aug 1, 2005 #22 Lawdog, God, because God is the direct cause of Conversion and the indirect cause of the desire to convert. Not that complex. Click to expand... So really we have no free will in the matter whatsoever. We are merely puppets in his hands, right? But what do you mean by indirect - either he was or he wasn't - which is it?
Lawdog, God, because God is the direct cause of Conversion and the indirect cause of the desire to convert. Not that complex. Click to expand... So really we have no free will in the matter whatsoever. We are merely puppets in his hands, right? But what do you mean by indirect - either he was or he wasn't - which is it?
