Re: The Vicious Cycle
Originally posted by Deist27
It’s true that life in general has been trapped by the disaster's price tag of survival of the fittest, the most vicious wins, and the predator-prey relationship existing in a brutal world. Mother Earth, what a Bitch
If you're overlooking a hierachy in the Vicious Cycle, the animal with the biggest claws is on top of the food chain and the most gentile is the most vulnerable. Within specific animal species a clear pecking order has been observed many times
Then why is there a fossil record of preditors in the Cambrian, prior to the disaster?
And If the animal with the biggest claws is at the top of the hierarchy, then how come tiny little bacteria gets to eats those claws after the creature dies? What about viruses? a invisable to even most microscopes thing that isn't even technically alive can get in and kill something as large as a grizzly bear. What about prions? a group of non-living atoms can get in a kill a cow, or a human, or any other living thing.
While I see you statement that 'big claws' can mean 'top of food chain', I do not see how the disaster precipitated this. nor do I see the connection between biggest claws and innately at the top of the food chain. Bonobos are very peaceful primates, and yet they are that the top of the food chain in their area. Gorillas can be violent when defending themselvs, but they are largley (if not entirely) vegiterians.
if the disaster is what is causing these problems, how do you explain the 5 major extinctions in known earth history? The earth has show signs of predation during the Caimbrian, then after each of the major extinctions.
Let me asume that you are correct for a second. The world was created such that plants create food by photosynthesis, animals eat plants, and people eat animals.
I see a problem with that in our teeth. Humans have canine teeth, as do cats, dogs, and mamny other mamels. if animals were supposed to eat plants, how/why did they end up with teeth like ours? If the Asteroid impact that supposedly cuased the last major extinction is also the cause of these problems in the world today, then why did dinosaurs (alive prior to the asteroid, and very possibly killed off as a result of the impact) eat each other? why did they have dagger-like teeth for eating other animals?
Throughout this whole argument, I'd say that humans weren't around at the time of the disaster. Either Humans came around in the last 400,000 years, or humans that lived before then were able to make no lasting impression on their environment, be it by dieing and leaving bones, or by eating animals, and leaving cut marks on their bones, etc. No perminant structures, no rock carving, nothing.
I am more than willing to believe you, make no mistake. but there are currently alot of questions in your theory that are open for debate. Until they are answered, no one in the scientific comunity will believe you. If you can convinse me, I will go spead the word. I just need to information to explain these new ideas.
[edit ] also, where do army ants fit in? They are eaten by anteaters, birds, frogs, etc, but can, at time, band together as a unit, and eat cows, Jaguars, and even people.
