I have read Rushtons works, as well as 'the bell curve'. It was a long learning experience for me because at first I was tempted to think it's just some hate speach. But it’s not. It’s just that the media is ridiculously sensitive to information that might contradict prevailing political values – i.e egalitarianism and multiculturalism, and so ignorantlyscreams 'racist racist racist’ , and of course all the hordes of lemmings join in and before you know it a book is discredited before it actually gets read. Nobody can convince m that race is not deterministic of ability when it’s so empirically obvious that it is. Just watch the 100m final at the Olympics. And of course it is reasonable to assume that certain races might have intellectual differences as well. This offends many people, but avoiding the truth is not going to get us anywhere. People get offended because they think that if we admit racial differences we are going to suddenly become Nazi Germany all over again. I think that’s a little paranoid. Ability (sporting/intellectual whatever) does not and should not affect human rights. We aren’t going to start saying ‘oh negros are inferior, let’s send them back to Africa now”.
Professor Rushton's Book: "Race, Evolution, and Behavior"
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Big D said:
You are an idiot.
I have yet to see one, just one bloody 'study' that does not use the African American subset of the 'black race'
as a representation of said race. I suppose I can stay sane by looking at it as a case of businessmen using controversy to make money. Because quite frankly, I fear I might just have to publish my own study on the sexual and intellectual ineptness of the white male. subset used: dumb idiots who accept the crap that initiated this thread.Many people have already done and publish books on how dumb they believe white males are, but any talk or writing that portrays blacks in ANY kind of negitive light true or not is against the law in the U.S.thefountainhed said:You are an idiot.
I have yet to see one, just one bloody 'study' that does not use the African American subset of the 'black race'
Their are so many theory's on why blacks behaviour is so uncivilized, ihave my own and I see you have yours.c'est moi said:
The point is that at least we do agree blacks are clearly a more violent, less intelligent and uncivilized group of people then all others, the reason why does not really matter.
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No. But I am working on a hypothesis that the initials JB are associated with ignorance, poor manners, smugness, racism, twisted perception and a singular inability to look at a fact head on. It's a decidedly provisional hypothesis, as I have only a single data point. It will likely turn out to be an inconsequential aberration.J.B said:
Ophiolite
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I can't think of a single reason why I should feel insecure on this subject. I made a personal attack because I couldn't think of a single reason that you deserved anything else. Perhaps, you may say I have trouble thinking of reasons because I lack imagination. Damn those psych tests showing exceptional creativity. I suspected they were flawed!J.B said:
Well, you are certainly showing me up as rather slow. Please tell me what was the 'fact' that I used to provide an excuse for the behaviour of blacks?J.B said:
And when you place some 'facts' in your own posts, rather than bigoted tripe, I shall be happy to attack them, rather than yourself.
Ophiolite
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Nor does it change the fact that IQ is only peripherally related to intelligence or the fact that IQ tests have a strong cultural bias. Put together I guess that's why I wind up with the number I do and why I am sensitive to attempts to draw more out of the alleged differences between races than is warranted.
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Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally.Ophiolite said:
J.B said:
True.
I mean do people think it's just a coincidence that Africans were living in squalor and dieing of diseases that Europeans had long since cured when they first when to their continent? I don't think so. When Europeans first went to Africa they were just horrified at casual ease with which the natives murdered and dismembered each other, and their total lack of..well, civilization.
"IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is also a good book to read.
phate17 said:
Significantly? Um...no. There are differences in the IQs of different groups of people, as we would expect. People seem to be afraid of acknowledging that there are differences. I find the differences interesting, especially the reasons of why the differences exist and how they came to be.
I get the idea that BigD and J.B are the same person. Maybe they're just equally foolish, equally bigoted. You're up there too phate. You show as having made 3 posts total. The 2 I remember reading are very retarded. That's not a good start. I see what you guys are pushing for, but have a little sense. You're too extreme. You despise the other extreme, but in your actions you mirror it. Take a step back and maybe people might take you a little more seriously. You guys need to work on your spelling too. Can we get an IP check on BigD, J.B. and phate? I find it hard to believe that three equally retarded people can end up on the same forum, let alone post in the same thread. Just checked it out and you guys only seem to post in the same threads. Very weird.
Generally, whites do score higher than blacks on tests. Yes it has unfortunately been written off as this or that, but that does more harm than good. Kids need to be tested as a whole and given help on a case by case basis. Some of you talk like all blacks and all whites perform at a certain level. Hate to shatter your perception of reality, but that isn't the case. There are genius white kids, genius black kids, genius asian kids. There are stupid white kids, there are stupid black kids, and there are stupid asian kids. The kids need to be tested and treated appropriately. As for the groups in general, no, their averages on tests do not show to be equal.
This thread seriously lacks logic. Some of you people are just way the fuck out there. Come back in, the water is fine.
Wow, the extent of your mental ineptness is fucking ridiculous.
WOW, Another personal attack, how did I know?thefountainhed said:
You personal attack does not change facts:
African-American women are 23 times as likely to be infected with the Aids virus as white women and account for 71.8% of new HIV cases among women in 29 US states, government research shows.
The Kaiser Family Foundation, a non-profit health organisation, has found that in 2001 roughly 67% of black women with Aids had contracted the virus through heterosexual sex - up from 58% four years earlier.
Government studies in 29 states found that black women comprised roughly half of all HIV infections acquired through heterosexual sex, in men and women, from 1999 to 2002. Medical experts put the sharp increase down to a combination of segregation, social exclusion and social and sexual mores. But some were eager to point out that there is scant empirical evidence to explain the rise.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1186596,00.html
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