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interlocking scales hanging like strings of pearls that divide in the middle

would be much better than massive cumbersome sliding planks of who knows what.
 
Jeeves said:
Why do spaceships and space stations have such stupid internal doors?
Who designs these angled, jaw-like, overcomplicated things?
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Iknowright?

I've been thinking of starting a gallery of dunbest spaceship door designs.

Here's my contribution:
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Even better.
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Jeeves said:
Steel, apparently. And they're really thick. It takes a whole 15 seconds to phaser them open.
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and they are not recessed into the floor

a sliding wall appeals to the human instinct of someone else doing the work.
while removing a boundary concept.

maybe the doors are rated as structural while they are closed.

but that only applies in a vertical gravitational field
 
Jeeves said:
Why do spaceships and space stations have such stupid internal doors?
Who designs these angled, jaw-like, overcomplicated things?
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Put it down to artistic licence by the ship’s architect, rather than any functionality. If it makes someone feel “special” as they open and close the door, if it makes them go “ooh” or “aah” then jobs a good’n. It’s all part of the overall aesthetics of the interior. :)
 
Sarkus said:
Put it down to artistic licence by the ship’s architect, rather than any functionality. If it makes someone feel “special” as they open and close the door, if it makes them go “ooh” or “aah” then jobs a good’n. It’s all part of the overall aesthetics of the interior. :)
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Not if you're the one paying the subcontractor to install these overdesigned, overcomplicated, overpriced gizmos!
Imagine the reaction of high-flying passengers feeling 'special' only until they discover that the cargo compartment has the same fancy door as their stateroom - or the lawsuits when their Vuitton hatbox gets mashed by one.
Anyway, most of the tech in these shows is supposed to convey functionality.
 
Jeeves said:
Why do spaceships and space stations have such stupid internal doors?
Who designs these angled, jaw-like, overcomplicated things?
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I think it might have something to do with bulkheads, the place in which many of those doors are placed. They probably need to have the same strength as the bulkhead itself being a main structure of the ship. If the door is open, this could present a hazard to the structure unless the entire door frame is reinforced more so than the bulkhead itself. My opinion.
 
(Q) said:
They probably need to have the same strength as the bulkhead itself being a main structure of the ship.
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Yes, I can go along with that. But it doesn't explain the odd shape of the opening, or why the door would be made of two sections that meet at odd angles and zig-zags.
 
Jeeves said:
Yes, I can go along with that. But it doesn't explain the odd shape of the opening, or why the door would be made of two sections that meet at odd angles and zig-zags.
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The odd angles could be based on the stress analysis of the pressure bulkheads and the stress direction based on the overall design.
 
(Q) said:
The odd angles could be based on the stress analysis of the pressure bulkheads and the stress direction based on the overall design.
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No, they can't. They're just as frivolous as the silly headlight designs on cars. Something with 22 diamond chips around a pear-cut solitaire doesn't light any more road than a simple round one.
 
(Q) said:
The odd angles could be based on the stress analysis of the pressure bulkheads and the stress direction based on the overall design.
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And yet the soft SWISH noise on opening and closing, as I understand it, in Star Trek is produced from a A4 sheet of paper being removed and then inserted back into a envelope

:)
 
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Jeeves said:
No, they can't. They're just as frivolous as the silly headlight designs on cars. Something with 22 diamond chips around a pear-cut solitaire doesn't light any more road than a simple round one.
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Well, in that case, I'd need to see which doors you're referring.
 
DS9 has some crazy doors, which you could maybe explain away by Cardassians... except they don't seem crazy in that way; Babylon 5 has even crazier ones, given that it was supposedly built by humans. I've noticed overdesign in some other spaceships, but don't recall the titles of individual productions - the later ones all kind of blur together in bad blue-grey lighting.
I don't have a handy picture reference.
 
Jeeves said:
DS9 has some crazy doors, which you could maybe explain away by Cardassians... except they don't seem crazy in that way; Babylon 5 has even crazier ones, given that it was supposedly built by humans. I've noticed overdesign in some other spaceships, but don't recall the titles of individual productions - the later ones all kind of blur together in bad blue-grey lighting.
I don't have a handy picture reference.
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I put "space ship door designs" into search engine and came up with a plethora of pics. Give it a try.
 
(Q) said:
I put "space ship door designs" into search engine and came up with a plethora of pics. Give it a try.
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I didn't want a plethora; I wanted specific examples.
Not that important, anyway: the fans know what I mean: others have raised similar criticism.
 
(Q) said:
The odd angles could be based on the stress analysis of the pressure bulkheads and the stress direction based on the overall design.
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Possibly. Hopefully, someone with a background in structural engineering or architecture/design will weigh in here. Personally, I'm going with this: Someone just threw in one of those sawtooth doors, without thinking it through, and others copied it. Now it's a "thing."

Here's my ponderable: Why does everything in the Star Wars universe have to be some sort of hovercraft? Don't they have wheels? Apparently, as per The Mandalorian, even baby prams are hovercrafts. That's silly. Possibility is one thing, viability--including economical--is something else.
 
parmalee said:
Possibly. Hopefully, someone with a background in structural engineering or architecture/design will weigh in here. Personally, I'm going with this: Someone just threw in one of those sawtooth doors, without thinking it through, and others copied it. Now it's a "thing."
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If it were simply a straight edge, it would not be as strong. The first thing you do to strengthen a hatch or door is to add interlocking teeth. The crazy shapes in these bulkhear doors are just teeth, writ larage.

parmalee said:
Here's my ponderable: Why does everything in the Star Wars universe have to be some sort of hovercraft? Don't they have wheels? Apparently, as per The Mandalorian, even baby prams are hovercrafts. That's silly. Possibility is one thing, viability--including economical--is something else.
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It just happens that, in the SW universe, they invented anti-gravity before inventing deodorant OR sanitary phone wipes.
 
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