If I take something, that means I have it and they don't. Since they still have it, it's not theft.
they own all copies, at whatever point they're made. as soon anything pirated is created, they own it, so you took it from them.
@ norsefire, (too jumbled to quote you here, i'll be clear though) yeah i was addressing spidergoat.
i don't think severe punishment is fair, give them benefit of the doubt, try to rehabilitate them (so they can keep contributing to society and their friends/family) and if they keep offending increase the severity. criminals who aren't a risk to society don't need to be ostracized.
libertarian sounds right, lets go with that.
i posted in your bigotry thread a while back, and i agree with you, but i still like multiculturalism, think hospitality is important and am not concerned by dangerous cultures. between the law and my expectations of acculturation its a manageable threat or whatever.
i'm taxed, and give willingly and generously.