Yes, you said life came into existence by itself
Origin of life on earth.
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Yes, you said life came into existence by itself
I like the river analogy in The Blind Watchmaker.
*SNL* MAY-ken copies
So we have a universe that likes SNL for some reason then there's also entropy and information theory.
Which sentence is more entropic? Do sentences have entropy? Does information have entropy? Do the sentences listed below both contain the same amount of information? Are they the same? If not - which does the universe "prefer"? How does that big fat sun change the equations? Does the earth contain all of the information there is to have about the Earth?
Which of these lines of information are more entropic?
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
or
(0011)x70?
*SNL* MAY-ken copies
So we have a universe that likes SNL for some reason then there's also entropy and information theory.
Which sentence is more entropic? Do sentences have entropy? Does information have entropy? Do the sentences listed below both contain the same amount of information? Are they the same? If not - which does the universe "prefer"
? How does that big fat sun change the equations? Does the earth contain all of the information there is to have about the Earth?Which of these lines of information are more entropic?
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
00110011001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011
or
(0011)x70?
Enmos
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It's doesn't prove a thing. Remember this thread is not about proof, it's just about what you think is the most probable.
Enmos
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This thread is not about atheism or proof of anything. It's about what you think is the most probable cause of life on earth.
So take your whining elsewhere.
I believe that we are from another universe that was created before ours. It is very similiar to the Star Treck episode :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Alternative_Factor_(TOS_episode)
Yes, this is close to the truth in my opinion, either that or panspermia at best
Thinking something is the most likely explanation and believing it despite all new information are two very different things.
Enmos
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Not in this thread
I think it is likely to do with the many-worlds and many-minds interpretation, we exist in a universe where life exists this way
No, not in this one.
What do you mean many-worlds/many-minds, how could that have created life ?
There's an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of minds, we exist in this universe where life happened this way, with this system, our mind plays a part in this
I never meditated on this for an answer, maybe I should
Enmos
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Yeah but how did it arise in this universe, what is this 'way'/'system' you are talking about ?
the problem is that science cannot offer anything falsifiable - even though there is a (empirical) "science" that surrounds the understanding of the origins of the universe it cannot be compared to, say, the science of iron smelting
Enmos
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So what are your thoughts on the matter ?
Enmos,
I chose option 5 because Allah is not the same God as the one in the Bible.
Allah is completely other to the cosmos.
(From my understanding anyway).
still thinking and require clarification
indulge please
A supernatural God created life on earth (like in the bible).
dismissed as a fallacy of misplaced concreteness. reification. if you will
A natural 'God' created life on earth (such as E.T.'s)
unworkable. its gotta be one or the other. i require conventional terminology. creative semantical structuring merely confuse and is prone to contradiction. there is no such thing as a "natural god".it is either nature or god
as for et, why not. not too long from now we might be doing the same so it is not illogical to make such a proposal ie: if we can do it so can they
i say why not
Life on earth came into existence 'by itself' through abiotic processes.
why not
Life on earth was seeded by organic molecules from space.
Something else..
same as above excepting for the displacement in time
why not
this "...on earth" suddenly appears to muddle
hmmm
Enmos
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'On earth' is an essential part of the question.
A natural 'God' created life on earth (such as E.T.'s)
That's why I wrote 'God' and not God. Implying that one might view the extraterrestrial race (for example) as Gods for creating life on earth. But in fact they are as natural as you and me. Seems clear to me :shrug:
Life on earth came into existence 'by itself' through abiotic processes.
Notice 'abiotic'.
Life on earth was seeded by organic molecules from space.
Notice 'organic'.
These two options are not the same.
'Why not' is a respectable answer, but the question was what do you think is most probable. I don't expect a scientific article on your decision..
Oh Dear!
Vital One, computers are complex but really, by comparison to life, the universe, everything, computers and computer technology are but a grain of sand on the beaches of the world/universe.
p.s god created computers too!?
my mind is firing blanks at every frikkin turn so lemme try some random formulations?
*i cannot even assess probability due to the extreme lack of info
*life begun on earth the moment et hit the atmosphere
*et's lab concoctions are quite plausible as a theory
*organic molecules plausible as it may be, merely push the problem into outer space. how did the molecules come about? et concoctions on mars? abiotic processes on ngc3535?
*the same for et. how did that sucker come about
*abiotic processes are plausible
*abiotic is an extremely rare steak
*organic molecules are medium rare steak
*et's a well done steak
*god's shit is charred, bottom of the barrel sludge with a dash of puke
*must read more
*probability cannot be assigned
*probability cannot be assigned
*probability cannot be assigned
*probability cannot be assigned
*whats left, belief? feels just right? faith? nahh not my style
sorry buddy
shall look into every paper ever done on these options. stack em in rows.
the highest will get my vote
many regards enmos
no disrespect intended
/equilibrium disrupted by topic
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