so you think they should do an investigation? because as far as i know their government is free and happy to kill and rampage and smuggle guns.
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so you think they should do an investigation? because as far as i know their government is free and happy to kill and rampage and smuggle guns.
Is that comparison an admission that the rate of water extraction ("mining of water") far exceeds the rain replenishment rate (as it does in Mid west USA)?
I.e. is it true that some older wells have gone dry and had to be dug deeper or abandoned?
I am not sure what you are stating here. Is "200mil" 200 million m^3 or slightly more than 1/3 of the total use. - That is what I think you are stating, but ask for clarity.
Also do you know the cost of the desalinated water per liter or gallon? I.e. what is each incremental value of each gallon of new water worth? How does the cost of the security wall compare with the mountain aquifer the water captured by it? (Or if a proper discount to present value of all the ground water is too tough to do, compare to the value of the water extracted in a year.) I.e. Was the expansion of Israeli control of land over the Mountain Aquifer an economical alternative to building more desalination plants? Is that what you mean by:
"...that's the most efficient systems in history. ..."
It was not clear to me what you were calling the "most efficient" water system. Perhaps you were stating that Israel has the best desalination plants in the world? There are three basics processes used (boil, freeze and reverse osmosis) and interestingly all are in use somewhere to produce fresh water so they do not differ greatly in cost. How does Israel produce fresh water from the Med Sea?
Again not sure what you are stating here. Are you stating that the expansion land under Israeli control was mainly where no one was using the Mountain Aquifer water? Some years ago, I saw a map (from Israeli sources) that showed the planned rout of the "security wall" over laid with the location of producing wells. That map indicated clearly a correlation - implying that capture of water resources did enter into the design of the wall's route. Your map above does not show this. In fact it shows the "good water" / "bad water" boundary almost identical with the green line. That is so improbable that clearly it has been designed to obscure the facts show in the older map.
I am not faulting Israel for putting the best spin they can on the route of the security wall, but all must admit that it is getting more ground water for Israel. All nations powerful relative to their neighbors take from the weaker neighbors.
For example, Brazil invaded Paraguay in 1880s with vastly superior armed forces. England supported Brazil as it did the US South in the US civil war and for the same reason. At that time Paraguay was much more advanced industrially than Brazil - a significant competitor to England in the manufacture of textiles. Brazil (with Argentina and Uruguay) took pieces of Paraguay and destroyed all of their industrial capacity while killing many. Paraguay has not yet recovered - for example, it makes no cars and is so poor it cannot import any new ones. - All there have been stolen from Brazil. (Some Brazilians live by driving stolen cars to Paraguay - it is their steady job!)
The US record of broken treaties with the native Indians is well known. Why expect Israel to be more pure than EVERY other country?
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this is what i like to read
IDF and Border Guard police forces thwarted a terror attack near the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar on Saturday morning.
Soldiers manning an observation post spotted a Palestinian advancing towards the settlement, located south of Nablus, at around 6:00 am. Border Police and Golani Brigade infantry troops stationed in the area tracked the man down, opening fire at him after he lit the Molotov cocktail he had been carrying.
A subsequent search of his body revealed a knife and other tools concealed on his person, which defense officials say were meant to aid him in breaking into the settlement.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3599327,00.html
one less terrorists, one less successful terror attack.
IDF and Border Guard police forces thwarted a terror attack near the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar on Saturday morning.
Soldiers manning an observation post spotted a Palestinian advancing towards the settlement, located south of Nablus, at around 6:00 am. Border Police and Golani Brigade infantry troops stationed in the area tracked the man down, opening fire at him after he lit the Molotov cocktail he had been carrying.
A subsequent search of his body revealed a knife and other tools concealed on his person, which defense officials say were meant to aid him in breaking into the settlement.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3599327,00.html
one less terrorists, one less successful terror attack.
This is very sad, and inhumane. And now they are going to attack them:
As if life wasn't difficult enough.
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf...gent&shortid=SHIG-7K9HJQ&file=Full_Report.pdf
Shame on people who are funding these atrocities.
Am I the only person who thinks the jews would have been better off without the creation of the nation of Israel?
maybe we would be better off if people like wouldnt exist in the first place?
It's amazing to me; a 95 page forum listing the atrocities of Israel.
Where's the African continent sticky? How about the hundreds of thousands of people who keep moving to not die..until there stomach ruptures. The kids at age 16 weighing 50lbs and the smell of burning corpse throughout the land. Young children being given jobs to work in mines with such killer conditions that they often die from black lung by 16.
Where's the Asian atrocities forum?
Where's the Muslim atrocities forum? What about all of the Hindis who lost there land to retarded Muslims?
This forum is representative of the behavior of The Human Rights Council and the recent Durban II. Where "Anti-semitism" is defined as hating Palestinians. Enough garbage is enough.
Where's the African continent sticky? How about the hundreds of thousands of people who keep moving to not die..until there stomach ruptures. The kids at age 16 weighing 50lbs and the smell of burning corpse throughout the land. Young children being given jobs to work in mines with such killer conditions that they often die from black lung by 16.
Where's the Asian atrocities forum?
Where's the Muslim atrocities forum? What about all of the Hindis who lost there land to retarded Muslims?
This forum is representative of the behavior of The Human Rights Council and the recent Durban II. Where "Anti-semitism" is defined as hating Palestinians. Enough garbage is enough.
I made this thread sticky because of the number of posts devoted to the subject, not to make a show of equal representation on this forum.
What people like me? A lot of hatred toward the jews stems from their support of Israel and everything it does. People like you with the attitude that Israel is always justified hurt the jewish people because you make it easier to whip up hatred toward them.
That is an interesting question. With only a minute of thought, and in recognition of how it was done, I think yes they would have been, perhaps more so than any of the nationless peoples, like the Kurds, the Gypsies, as the Jews have a culture that respects knowledge and personnal achievements, especially skills and academically (more so than athletics for example.) One that also celebrates life.
That said, I think it is useful for all peoples with well developed cultures to have a home land. Perhaps even instead of refugee camp expenses, it is more economical in the long run to purchase it. Fundamentally, that is the origin of the problem with Israel - they did not buy their home land - they and the British stole it.
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Many in Africa or South America if the price was right. About half of the US was obtained by purchase (from the French and the Russians mainly.)
Even where Israel is now land could have been bought.
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You mean other colonials. Not natives, once nationalism took root, they would have had to kill the natives there too. The US did a pretty good job of relocating the natives as well.
No, those are Arabs, they may roam the world, but they always go home, even as nomads. Those people haven't moved for 5000 to 7000 years, why would they start now?
Yeah, and it worked so damned well that perhaps we should take that same approach in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Then we could move on to that poverty-sticken area called Pakistan and India.
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