News flash! Drugs win drug war!
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You assume we are going to legalize drugs soon, but it's not going to happen. I will believe it when I see it. If drug is not gonna be legalized, you might as well step up the war effort. People keep saying legalizing it would mean no profit. That is true, but we can also identify and confiscate their profit. That is not something we have done before until 9/11. We will then fund the operation using drug dealer's money. That way both drugs and bad guys are gone. If we legalize drugs, both drugs and bad guys are still there.
Legalization -- fast or slow -- what will you "do with" people who take drugs and commit horrendous acts under their influence?
Tyler - you say you have absolutely no authority over anyone else's body. So, when someone on drugs causes the death of someone, is that considered exercising authority over their body? Will you propose some sort of punishment?
Tyler - you say you have absolutely no authority over anyone else's body. So, when someone on drugs causes the death of someone, is that considered exercising authority over their body? Will you propose some sort of punishment?
No, I do not say this because I expect it to be legalized or even soon. I am but one voice in the midst of all this crap crying for reason.
There have been many inroads towards the legalizing of pot to show the way. Many states are making the Federal courts take them to court to change local laws that were changed to reflect the populaces' wants and wishes. Not to mention that it clogs the courts with what many consider as a minor offense. Far better it would be to allow these courts to focus on more serious matters. as it is a large percentage of cases involve the use, not the sales or more serious matters. Further, our penalties are really squewed when it comes to drug use. They are so bent out of shape that if one looks at the penalties involved for the offenses it is more serious to have drugs than to rape. What is wrong with this picture?
The confiscation of property has long been a weapon within the legal realms when dealing with drugs. It didn't just start lately. Look for government auctions involving homes, cars, and other property. It has been going on for years. The same with any cash that is confiscated. It goes to the state coffers with some of the percentage going to the law enforcement agencies responcile for the successful prosecution of the defendant.
If we legalize the drugs, then we take control of them. No longer are people dead because of money deals gone wrong. Nor are people ripped off because it is easy to do so.
As far as the drug dealers go, if there is no market for their product then they have nothing to sell and are no longer a drug dealer. Of necessity they must find a new occupation. The drugs that are on the streets now will be there anyway. That in no way affects the status of changing law. Whether it is done tomarrow or 20 years hence drugs will still be there.
One of the reasons drug dealers are doing so well is that the drug lords that the product originates from have plenty of money to throw at the problem of getting their shipments through. Because of this their equipment rivals if it is not better than our government uses. Without the steady drain of this second, underground economy which funnels the money out of the country, you would find everything from our inflation to the cost of intrest would fall. Why do you think the government wants this to end so badly? It is not just the illegality of it. The borders or porous, the economy has a tremondous drain on it, and nothing is really slowing down the influx of drugs. It is one of the reasons that your money has far less value than it did years ago. More money is printed to replace that which left the country thereby decreasing it's value.
Far better to eliminate the problem by legalizition. Because it is everywhere throughout our society we long ago lost the war on drugs.
There have been many inroads towards the legalizing of pot to show the way. Many states are making the Federal courts take them to court to change local laws that were changed to reflect the populaces' wants and wishes. Not to mention that it clogs the courts with what many consider as a minor offense. Far better it would be to allow these courts to focus on more serious matters. as it is a large percentage of cases involve the use, not the sales or more serious matters. Further, our penalties are really squewed when it comes to drug use. They are so bent out of shape that if one looks at the penalties involved for the offenses it is more serious to have drugs than to rape. What is wrong with this picture?
The confiscation of property has long been a weapon within the legal realms when dealing with drugs. It didn't just start lately. Look for government auctions involving homes, cars, and other property. It has been going on for years. The same with any cash that is confiscated. It goes to the state coffers with some of the percentage going to the law enforcement agencies responcile for the successful prosecution of the defendant.
If we legalize the drugs, then we take control of them. No longer are people dead because of money deals gone wrong. Nor are people ripped off because it is easy to do so.
As far as the drug dealers go, if there is no market for their product then they have nothing to sell and are no longer a drug dealer. Of necessity they must find a new occupation. The drugs that are on the streets now will be there anyway. That in no way affects the status of changing law. Whether it is done tomarrow or 20 years hence drugs will still be there.
One of the reasons drug dealers are doing so well is that the drug lords that the product originates from have plenty of money to throw at the problem of getting their shipments through. Because of this their equipment rivals if it is not better than our government uses. Without the steady drain of this second, underground economy which funnels the money out of the country, you would find everything from our inflation to the cost of intrest would fall. Why do you think the government wants this to end so badly? It is not just the illegality of it. The borders or porous, the economy has a tremondous drain on it, and nothing is really slowing down the influx of drugs. It is one of the reasons that your money has far less value than it did years ago. More money is printed to replace that which left the country thereby decreasing it's value.
Far better to eliminate the problem by legalizition. Because it is everywhere throughout our society we long ago lost the war on drugs.
"Tyler - you say you have absolutely no authority over anyone else's body. So, when someone on drugs causes the death of someone, is that considered exercising authority over their body? Will you propose some sort of punishment?"
I do not have authority over what another person does to themselves. However, our society has deemed it beneficial (and I agree) that we have authority over someone who exercises an act over another, unwilling, human.
I do not have authority over what another person does to themselves. However, our society has deemed it beneficial (and I agree) that we have authority over someone who exercises an act over another, unwilling, human.
john stuart mill 1859 'on justice'
"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant."
for the love of god, think about the children and decriminalize now!
"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant."
for the love of god, think about the children and decriminalize now!
Very good ideas and points in this, many people do feel this way, it shows it in how far this has gotten in recent legislations such as the one that got into committee in Nevada. It is true that there is a large drug war going on, and I, as well, feel that if marijuana was made legal then many issues could be helped, if not solved, such as some of the points made previously.