Nature & Social Rules

Who & how so called cheater are punished in nature & by nature? Do the nature says -- don't snatch/steal/kill for hanger/real need if no other alternative & just die of starvation?
 
You said previously, that you hate the referances. All referances can be 'man made for men types'. I repeat:

Do the nature says -- don't snatch/steal/kill for hunger/real need (if no other alternative) & just die of starvation?
 
I shall try. However instrict means: "a natural or inherent aptitude, impulse, or capacity 2 a : a largely inheritable and unalterable tendency of an organism to make a complex and specific response to environmental stimuli without involving reason " whereas genetic means:relating to or determined by the origin, development, or causal antecedents of something".


I think instrict can be non-natural type also being effected by social devlopments. We may need to study human's natural instricts.
 
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'Nature' is just a lot of stuff that happens. There isn't any deep significance to it.
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Thats a pretty big call wouldn't you say?
I'd expect someone like god to say that, you know, If he decided to fill us in on some of the unknowable secrets of the universe. But you're just a human being, how could you possibly know that there is no significance to what happens in nature?
 
Other aspect:

It is indicated in several mentionings that Time Factor is important & can effect the behaviour of any person eg. astrological telling about good/bad time of a person. Good time may make a person to behave in senses for his good & bad time may make him to behave in non-senses for his bad. If we look the results we may find that he has done all good for him in good time & all bad in bad time-- and all these can be just unintentionally & without proper prior planning as if he has been hypnotises or attuned to do so. What the science says: Do the time factor can effect the senses & behaviour of a person to do some acts & deeds unintentionally?
 
Kumar said:
I shall try. However instrict means: "a natural or inherent aptitude, impulse, or capacity 2 a : a largely inheritable and unalterable tendency of an organism to make a complex and specific response to environmental stimuli without involving reason " whereas genetic means:relating to or determined by the origin, development, or causal antecedents of something".
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Wouldn’t this definition contradict your previous assertion that sex for pleasure is not natural?
 
Mystech said:
Wouldn’t this definition contradict your previous assertion that sex for pleasure is not natural?
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How it contradict? Do you mean in instrict or genetic sense? Pleasure in sex is a natural gift but that is meant for reproduction not for luxuary. Means: sex+reproduction=natural otherwise not natural. Using condoms & other birth control measures can be innatural.
 
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Kumar said:
How it contradict? Do you mean in instrict or genetic sense? Pleasure in sex is a natural gift but that is meant for reproduction not for luxuary. Means: sex+reproduction=natural otherwise not natural. Using condoms & other birth control measures can be innatural.
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On what grounds are you basing this though? How is it unnatural? What even qualifies as natural? If you mean that it occurs in nature, or if it is unchanged by humans (two common definitions) then sex for pleasure is about as natural as it gets.

Though it's pretty dodgy ground to begin with, this talk of what is natural and what isn't, especially in this context with no one feeling any urge to back up any stupid claim they make, the idea that we shouldn't have sex for pleasure is un-natural as it is our natural (ie our inherent, or default) inclination.
 
If sex just for pleasure( daily or occasionaly) is natural--as you feel, then you will also say that an alcoholic or other addicted person who takes daily or occasionally is also doing naturally or going according to nature. What is the ultimate goal of doing sex, taking alcohol or durgs & other luxuaries--daily or occasionally? What for all these things are made by nature for us? Don't we get some feeling or some guilt of doing sex with birth control means or just for pleasure not for reproduction. Just compare the feelings by: sex for reproduction & sex just for pleasure/luxuary. Is it our necessity to do sex only for pleasure? Are we not edicted due to same?
 
If sex just for pleasure( daily or occasionaly) is natural--as you feel, then you will also say that an alcoholic or other addicted person who takes daily or occasionally is also doing naturally or going according to nature. What is the ultimate goal of doing sex, taking alcohol or durgs & other luxuaries--daily or occasionally? What for all these things are made by nature for us? Don't we get some feeling or some guilt of doing sex with birth control means or just for pleasure not for reproduction. Just compare the feelings by: sex for reproduction & sex just for pleasure/luxuary. Is it our necessity to do sex only for pleasure? Are we not addicted due to same?
 
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