Muslims should broadcast Dutch anti-Islam film.
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You have a website?
that sure does explain the rise in anti jewish and israeli posts.
Frankly I think the hoopla leading up to the film was more exciting than the film itself.
He has only talked about extremists and imams who provoke some people.
The association with Quranic verses is unfortunate but not unusual; he's not saying anything new that we haven't heard ad nauseum in this forum.
All in all its pretty dull and boring.
He has only talked about extremists and imams who provoke some people.
The association with Quranic verses is unfortunate but not unusual; he's not saying anything new that we haven't heard ad nauseum in this forum.
All in all its pretty dull and boring.
Asguard does not moderate Free Thoughts, invert does.
Anyway, here is a good review of the film:
In a review, a film critic for the Dutch paper NRC Handesblad says the message of Geert Wilders' film is straightforward: the Koran calls for violence and Muslims are receptive to that call. The style of rhetoric recalls "An Inconvenient Truth" and "Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged."
"Fitna," which according to the credits at the end of the film was made by Wilders and someone hiding behind the name of Scarlet Pimpernel, is a 16-minute long compilation of largely archive material.
The archive material has been edited to make Wilders' point: that the Koran calls for violence and Muslims are receptive to that call. It is a tried and tested method of film-making.
According to the book Nazis and the Cinema (Susan Tegel, 2007), the Soviet film-maker Esfir Schub was the first to work like this in her film The Fall of the Romanov Dynasty (1927). The most noted example of this technique is Der ewige Jude (The Eternal Jew) (1940) by Frits Hippler. To make it clear, apart from the use of existing material, there is no similarity between that anti-Semitic production and "Fitna." Hippler wanted to show that Jews were sub-human, and combined images of filthy Polish ghettos with squirming rats to make his arguments more powerful. In "Fitna," Muslims are only shown if they make radical statements.
This rhetoric makes "Fitna" similar to ...Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged, by a US evangelical group which wants to prove that JK Rowling's books are dangerous to children. The conclusion is the same as in Wilders' film: ban the books.
That pretty much sums up the movie in my opinion.
I find it interesting that Wilders himself does not appear on camera.
Anyway, here is a good review of the film:
In a review, a film critic for the Dutch paper NRC Handesblad says the message of Geert Wilders' film is straightforward: the Koran calls for violence and Muslims are receptive to that call. The style of rhetoric recalls "An Inconvenient Truth" and "Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged."
"Fitna," which according to the credits at the end of the film was made by Wilders and someone hiding behind the name of Scarlet Pimpernel, is a 16-minute long compilation of largely archive material.
The archive material has been edited to make Wilders' point: that the Koran calls for violence and Muslims are receptive to that call. It is a tried and tested method of film-making.
According to the book Nazis and the Cinema (Susan Tegel, 2007), the Soviet film-maker Esfir Schub was the first to work like this in her film The Fall of the Romanov Dynasty (1927). The most noted example of this technique is Der ewige Jude (The Eternal Jew) (1940) by Frits Hippler. To make it clear, apart from the use of existing material, there is no similarity between that anti-Semitic production and "Fitna." Hippler wanted to show that Jews were sub-human, and combined images of filthy Polish ghettos with squirming rats to make his arguments more powerful. In "Fitna," Muslims are only shown if they make radical statements.
This rhetoric makes "Fitna" similar to ...Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged, by a US evangelical group which wants to prove that JK Rowling's books are dangerous to children. The conclusion is the same as in Wilders' film: ban the books.
That pretty much sums up the movie in my opinion.
I find it interesting that Wilders himself does not appear on camera.
Sorry vega , i am a bit lost here..
what has sam done exactly apart from say that she like an anti-islamic film and she reckons all muslims should have it on their websites and stuff, whats wrong with that??
Or am i missing something due to the fatc that i have not posted for a while
what has sam done exactly apart from say that she like an anti-islamic film and she reckons all muslims should have it on their websites and stuff, whats wrong with that??
Or am i missing something due to the fatc that i have not posted for a while
so you posted it here to override Asguard . how lovely
ill bet if i have done that ill get reported, but no, not deer old SAM who can do what ever she wants on sci fi.
Mr. Spock: "maybe we should ask this guy?"
Shubak, ya himaar?
He won't answer me, Spock.
I watched as much as I could stand of Fitna-pure trash propaganda. Draqon posted a link to it in a way that seemed complimentary, and that sort of presentation here did ruffle me: I wouldn't like for Sciforums to start resembling a neonazi board, with prominent links to all sorts of corrupt and ignorant screeds.
Because Fitna is making global waves, I wish we could discuss it in Whirled Events. The most interesting aspect to me will be how universally it is recognized as the shit that it is. I'm wondering if extreme propaganda like this might open the eyes of some people who have caught only a mild case of the islamophobia virus. Maybe Fitna will be more thought-provoking than hate-mongering within intelligent communities. But it's sure to fan the flames among those harboring ignorant fears and deep hatred of Islam.
Shubak, ya himaar?
He won't answer me, Spock.
I watched as much as I could stand of Fitna-pure trash propaganda. Draqon posted a link to it in a way that seemed complimentary, and that sort of presentation here did ruffle me: I wouldn't like for Sciforums to start resembling a neonazi board, with prominent links to all sorts of corrupt and ignorant screeds.
Because Fitna is making global waves, I wish we could discuss it in Whirled Events. The most interesting aspect to me will be how universally it is recognized as the shit that it is. I'm wondering if extreme propaganda like this might open the eyes of some people who have caught only a mild case of the islamophobia virus. Maybe Fitna will be more thought-provoking than hate-mongering within intelligent communities. But it's sure to fan the flames among those harboring ignorant fears and deep hatred of Islam.
