Women trashing women?
I find it rather interesting, and just a little bit disingenuous, that you're trying to focus on the outcome. Indeed, fraudulent pretenses appear to be legal when it comes to sexual intercourse. In other words, people can lie their way into the sack. But I think you're doing women in general a disservice with the way you're treating the point. All you're proving is that women aren't to be trusted, and aside from the fact that women are human and humans aren't to be trusted, that's a heap of shit. There is an ethical difference, at least, between taking off your wedding ring and lying to a man in order to exploit a baby as a means of extortion. No, it's not rape. But all you're proving with your argument is that women are especially untrustworthy, and should be avoided.
I had a neighbor once—I've discussed him before—who was a complete moron. All women, to him, are bitches and cunts. It's not exactly his fault, since he once went through a windshield at high speed and headfirst into a brick wall. But still, after a while it's just more than I can take. One of the infamous episodes I've recalled is when he was telling me about this time that a woman "for no reason" threw a stone through his window. While his senile father was home.
"What kind of person does that?" he asked.
Well, when you rape someone—regardless of whether your senile father is home—there's a good possibility that they're going to put a rock through your window. And when you rape a hooker, you ought to count yourself lucky if a stone through the window is all you get.
Except it isn't really rape, is it? That the reason she consented to have sex was fraudulent doesn't count, does it?
He didn't like the way she fucked. He says he didn't get off. As I see it, that's his problem. Obviously, he disagreed. He threw the hooker out without paying her.
"You fucked her for two hours and didn't pay her?" I asked incredulously.
Good to know you're looking out for your sisters.
Her "baby clock"? He is being selfish? Fine. So what?
Weren't you complaining just the other day about people having children as a fashion statement?
The solution is that she should leave the man and find another. If it's so important to her to have a baby, and he's not falling into line like a properly-whipped puppy should, she should ditch him and move on.
Oh, does divorce make that a messy process? Too freakin' bad. She shouldn't have married him, then.
A baby should be wanted. By both its parents. That unplanned pregnancies occur is a matter of myopia, and even stupidity. But fraud?
Next time I hear a guy going on about how you shouldn't trust the bitches, what the hell am I supposed to say? I'll tell you what I'll say: I'll forget all about you and Orleander, and defend my fellow human beings' expectation of respect.
You might prefer misogyny—maybe it gets you off?—but I'm sick of it.
Orleander said:
Having to pay child support for an unwanted baby is NOT the same as rape.
I find it rather interesting, and just a little bit disingenuous, that you're trying to focus on the outcome. Indeed, fraudulent pretenses appear to be legal when it comes to sexual intercourse. In other words, people can lie their way into the sack. But I think you're doing women in general a disservice with the way you're treating the point. All you're proving is that women aren't to be trusted, and aside from the fact that women are human and humans aren't to be trusted, that's a heap of shit. There is an ethical difference, at least, between taking off your wedding ring and lying to a man in order to exploit a baby as a means of extortion. No, it's not rape. But all you're proving with your argument is that women are especially untrustworthy, and should be avoided.
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Lucifer's Angel said:
rape is a violent nasty, evil, thing to do and to compare to sabotageing birth control to rape is also twisted and sick, but not rape
I had a neighbor once—I've discussed him before—who was a complete moron. All women, to him, are bitches and cunts. It's not exactly his fault, since he once went through a windshield at high speed and headfirst into a brick wall. But still, after a while it's just more than I can take. One of the infamous episodes I've recalled is when he was telling me about this time that a woman "for no reason" threw a stone through his window. While his senile father was home.
"What kind of person does that?" he asked.
Well, when you rape someone—regardless of whether your senile father is home—there's a good possibility that they're going to put a rock through your window. And when you rape a hooker, you ought to count yourself lucky if a stone through the window is all you get.
Except it isn't really rape, is it? That the reason she consented to have sex was fraudulent doesn't count, does it?
He didn't like the way she fucked. He says he didn't get off. As I see it, that's his problem. Obviously, he disagreed. He threw the hooker out without paying her.
"You fucked her for two hours and didn't pay her?" I asked incredulously.
Good to know you're looking out for your sisters.
what if the couple were together for years, and the man has always said, "we'll have a baby somtime?" and he always says now isnt the right time? and the woman is seeing her baby clock reduce from day to day, should she not have kids because he's being selfish?
Her "baby clock"? He is being selfish? Fine. So what?
Weren't you complaining just the other day about people having children as a fashion statement?
The solution is that she should leave the man and find another. If it's so important to her to have a baby, and he's not falling into line like a properly-whipped puppy should, she should ditch him and move on.
Oh, does divorce make that a messy process? Too freakin' bad. She shouldn't have married him, then.
A baby should be wanted. By both its parents. That unplanned pregnancies occur is a matter of myopia, and even stupidity. But fraud?
Next time I hear a guy going on about how you shouldn't trust the bitches, what the hell am I supposed to say? I'll tell you what I'll say: I'll forget all about you and Orleander, and defend my fellow human beings' expectation of respect.
You might prefer misogyny—maybe it gets you off?—but I'm sick of it.