Lets dissect the literary character Mohammad. What sort of person were his authors trying to create? Why? Many Muslims tell me that, even though I do not believe the Qur'an was God inspired, that, I should still recognize that Mohammad was of fine character and that even though I'm atheist, I must accept that he was an upright and moral honest individual.
OK, well, this is my rational:
There is no God, there's no good evidence to suggest there are any, therefor that means Mohammad lied and did so very often. Each time he said an angel told him such and such - this was a lie. There's nothing to argue here. If Mohammad wasn't psychotic then he was simply a profuse liar.
That's simply a truth.
If there is no God, Then Mohammad was a liar.
Priest can believe in God, they can interpret what they think God wants or likes or doesn't like. But, once you say you are a Prophet and KNOW what God wants because he's telling you, assuming your not a babbling psychopath, you're a con and a liar.
It really is that simple.
Was Mohammad genius or even very clever? Well, due to the profuse plagiarism of the Bible in the Qur'an I'd have to say no. I mean, Mohammad had the chance to build his own philosophy. Did he do that? No. He instead copied the bible and set about building a cult of personality. Unliek say Buddha, who sat around thinking and writing his thought's Mohammad sat around copying the Bible and lying to people.
If Mohammad has some good ideas, THEN he wouldn't have had to appeal to authority (Allah) to give his ideas credence - they'd have been meaningful on their own.
This is again very very simple to understand. If you have a good idea, then you do not need to pretend it came from God to get people to believe you.
Was he of fine character? Well, at the age 25 Muhammad wed his 40 year old boss Khadijah. That must have been for love. I mean, it's not like he married her for her money and because she was powerful or anything like that. He simply wanted to marry his boss. Many secretaries do the same and marry their bosses even today. BUT... .... BUT ... ... some secretaries do marry their bosses for the money and power. Now, given that Mohammad was a liar, no doubt about that, and a con, hmmmm... well, one does have to wonder.
Mohammad's treatment of Meccan Heritage. After assembling a bunch of thugs, Mohammad refused to set his little toe into the city of Mecca until after his thugs had destroyed all of the Arabic heritage. In essence destroy centuries of culture and tradition. Exactly like when the Taliban blew up the 2500 year old Buddha Statues in Afghanistan. They actually used Mohammad's own actions to justify theirs.
History also has it that Mohammad had a little young singing girls' head removed from her shoulders for making fun of him in a poem back when he was not so powerful. After he got a bit of power - well, off with her head. His mate brings back this little girl's head and Mohammad is well pleased. Well pleased with this girls chopped off and bloody head. Mohammad was also said to have lopped off the heads of 600 Jewish men.
Now, as I understand it. Muslims can have 4 wives. Their God likes it when men have 4. Not 5. But 4 is OK. 5 is a sin. The Muslim God is displeased when a man has 5 wives. 4 wives - yep, very good. Very good. Except in the case of Mohammad - well he needed many many many more than 4. This is because God said it was OK that he has a lot of sex with many different wives. Now, given there is no God..... :bugeye: I think the answer here is obvious.
I have to say, for the illiterate superstitious nomadic camel herder - perhaps these are the actions of a glorious fellow camel herder. You know: A Big Man. But to me, well, he seems like a very small minded egocentric con-man who created a cult of personality.
Once you remove the pretend "Allah" it all becomes quite clear. Sadly, this then means it's going to be all but impossible for Muslims to move into the modern era as their culture is tied strongly to this fiction. Not impossible, but, very difficult. Any Muslims who becomes atheist all tell me they see Mohammad the same way as me. Even more so as they know more about Mohammad. It's a shame really, that Mohammad was such a person.
OK, well, this is my rational:
There is no God, there's no good evidence to suggest there are any, therefor that means Mohammad lied and did so very often. Each time he said an angel told him such and such - this was a lie. There's nothing to argue here. If Mohammad wasn't psychotic then he was simply a profuse liar.
That's simply a truth.
If there is no God, Then Mohammad was a liar.
Priest can believe in God, they can interpret what they think God wants or likes or doesn't like. But, once you say you are a Prophet and KNOW what God wants because he's telling you, assuming your not a babbling psychopath, you're a con and a liar.
It really is that simple.
Was Mohammad genius or even very clever? Well, due to the profuse plagiarism of the Bible in the Qur'an I'd have to say no. I mean, Mohammad had the chance to build his own philosophy. Did he do that? No. He instead copied the bible and set about building a cult of personality. Unliek say Buddha, who sat around thinking and writing his thought's Mohammad sat around copying the Bible and lying to people.
If Mohammad has some good ideas, THEN he wouldn't have had to appeal to authority (Allah) to give his ideas credence - they'd have been meaningful on their own.
This is again very very simple to understand. If you have a good idea, then you do not need to pretend it came from God to get people to believe you.
Was he of fine character? Well, at the age 25 Muhammad wed his 40 year old boss Khadijah. That must have been for love. I mean, it's not like he married her for her money and because she was powerful or anything like that. He simply wanted to marry his boss. Many secretaries do the same and marry their bosses even today. BUT... .... BUT ... ... some secretaries do marry their bosses for the money and power. Now, given that Mohammad was a liar, no doubt about that, and a con, hmmmm... well, one does have to wonder.
Mohammad's treatment of Meccan Heritage. After assembling a bunch of thugs, Mohammad refused to set his little toe into the city of Mecca until after his thugs had destroyed all of the Arabic heritage. In essence destroy centuries of culture and tradition. Exactly like when the Taliban blew up the 2500 year old Buddha Statues in Afghanistan. They actually used Mohammad's own actions to justify theirs.
History also has it that Mohammad had a little young singing girls' head removed from her shoulders for making fun of him in a poem back when he was not so powerful. After he got a bit of power - well, off with her head. His mate brings back this little girl's head and Mohammad is well pleased. Well pleased with this girls chopped off and bloody head. Mohammad was also said to have lopped off the heads of 600 Jewish men.
Now, as I understand it. Muslims can have 4 wives. Their God likes it when men have 4. Not 5. But 4 is OK. 5 is a sin. The Muslim God is displeased when a man has 5 wives. 4 wives - yep, very good. Very good. Except in the case of Mohammad - well he needed many many many more than 4. This is because God said it was OK that he has a lot of sex with many different wives. Now, given there is no God..... :bugeye: I think the answer here is obvious.
I have to say, for the illiterate superstitious nomadic camel herder - perhaps these are the actions of a glorious fellow camel herder. You know: A Big Man. But to me, well, he seems like a very small minded egocentric con-man who created a cult of personality.
Once you remove the pretend "Allah" it all becomes quite clear. Sadly, this then means it's going to be all but impossible for Muslims to move into the modern era as their culture is tied strongly to this fiction. Not impossible, but, very difficult. Any Muslims who becomes atheist all tell me they see Mohammad the same way as me. Even more so as they know more about Mohammad. It's a shame really, that Mohammad was such a person.
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