Mathmatically disproving God could not Flood the world for Noah to build his Arch

[jpappl]

I disagree. Every action requires an explanation.

Lol, my bro, i dont know what is up with the stories of your dinos'. but it sounds LOL :shrug:

Some creationists think that dinosaurs co-existed with humans. How else to explain the bones, seeing that God created everything in 7 days.

So:

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[jpappl]

Why do you think god created sea sponges?

The mystery is solved.

 

[Pit]

I've always felt the flood was a slightly exaggerated part of the bible.
after all, a flood was the one unstoppable thing out there: Fire could be extinguished, snow hidden from inside but flood deadly.

 

[IamJoseph]

Some creationists think that dinosaurs co-existed with humans. How else to explain the bones, seeing that God created everything in 7 days.

So:

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The creation days are apochs of time prior to the sun's luminosity being focused on earth [see 4th day]. These are not 24 hour days, the reason the Hebrew calendar begins after these cosmic creation days. The Hebrew calendar is the oldest and most accurate one in existence, which introduced the 'day' and 'week', and a correct calendar requires the sunlight for measuring time on earth.

The Hebrew bible has been misrepresented by Christianity, which seeks to voluntarilly align it with its own Helenist/Roman belief system - when it never observed or understood it at any time. The Hebrew bible is the only writings which did not say the earth is flat.

 

[IamJoseph]

There's plenty enough water to cover the earth, if you flatten it out a bit.

That means at one time the earth was covered in water [Genesis] - which means no life could exist at this time [Genesis]. This makes the pre-life actions nominated in Genesis as examples of critical seperations [dividing the waters from the land, light from darkness, etc] as anticipatory actions for life. Luke, sorry to say, has no input here.

 

[IamJoseph]

Why do you think god created sea sponges?

Such a question is deficient of space-time authenticity. Why do you think God created pinicilin 5000 years ago [or why not] - or why do you think in 5000 years from now another new drug is created? The best answer is the mystery how everything comes in its due time ['The early rain and the later rains']. Of note is that when a new knowledge arrives - 1000's of other aligning knowledges connect with it, and if a new knowledge descended 5 minutes before its time - the human mind would self-destruct.

A deep contemplation will see we are hardly responsible for new knowledge - it just pops up in a suitable receptive mind as its descending recepticle - and Eureka! Penicilin was discovered by accident [or was it?] - and if it did not arrive in its critical time humanity would not exist today. For those who imagine this is far fetched, consider that 99.9% of all actions within our bodies which keep us alive are involuntary.

 

[IamJoseph]

With all due respect, you have no clue what you're talking about. "Baptist" is a catch name for any number of independent churches, many with VERY diverging interpretations and beliefs, except in one are: baptism in the name of Christ is the only way to get to heaven; belief in the trinity, Satan and the return of Christ in the end times. Everything else is optional.

A better focus says Baptism has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity - it is a ritual from the Hebrew bible given 2000 years previously.

A focus on the Torah was paramount in their teaching. Memorization and understanding of entire tracts of versus was demanded.

A better focus says Europe was only interested in whatever it could align with the Gospels - and anything else was totally disregarded or fullfilled away. Most Christian scholars have now admitted the corruption of the Isaiah texts was a big time error - yet this folly is still clung to by millions of Christians. There has never been anything in the Hebrew bible which was or is fullfilled [not active anymore], everything being active today, and there has never been any fullfilment seen in the Gospels - only the prophesies listed in the Hebrew bible can be scientifically and historically agreed as fullfilment, and in open manifest mode.

The core reason behind the alleged "wandering" is much debated, but the prime reason--even amongst Jews--is to get the Egypt out of the Hebrews even after the Hebrews had already fled Egypt. Two generations left almost no one alive from the original slavery and enough time to drive the lessons home.

This is better the activation of the prophesy given to Abraham: bondage subsequent to Monotheist truth - and return to a land designated. This is also proof there can be no fullfilment as per the contradicting Helenist message from Saul of Tarsus - if there is no absolute reliance of God's word - there is no belief in God. God does not change his mind - better, God cannot change his mind - because God is truth ['I wake early in the morn to keep my promises'].

It was "forgotten" many times even after the arrival in Canaan. And the "FX miracles" are, again, hyperbole and the figment of many a man's imagination.

The greatest miracles are not FX miracles but everyday occurences, which must go through the laws we call as 'nature' - here, millions/billions of unseen factors have to align. The return from bondage is a miracle by virtue of the Israelites being the only nation which escaped, returned and survived to their own land - which was held till 70 CE - as is seen in the return of Israel when this was least possible ['We will never support the return of the Jews to their homeland because they rejected Jesus' - Pope Pius]. One must not exclude the failed and bad agendas here - these are more telling.

Science has already demonstrated that most of the nonsense in the bible is the meanderings of many layers of human imagination.

Is the universe not finite [V1]? Can there be any science but for V2 occuring first - the formless must turn to form? Science comes from Genesis.

Except the part about the earth being a few thousand years old. Creation, in general.

This is Christianity - always in error of the Hebrew bible. If this brings an anxst - direct it where it belongs.

Name a single lofty claim in the bible that's been proven? See, the bible and Christians are the one's required to show proof, it's not up to the doubters to disprove idiotic claims maid by religious kooks.

~String

I agree it is the Bible which has to show proof - and the rest to show disproof. 70% of the Hebrew bible has already been proven via scientific and historical evidence. Before you connect the Hebrew with the Gospels - please show us 'one' [not two] proofs of anything in the Gospels vindicated today - choose any word or verse therein.