I think I can live with that.
Well duh! Children are still growing; that's why we don't call them adults. The circuits in their brains have a lot of development left, as does the regulation of their endocrine system. Their judgment is being formed from their experiences, so the distorted experience of being high will distort their judgment.Marijuana use at a young age significantly increased the risk of psychosis in young adulthood, Australian investigators reported.
Yes indeed, almost everything in life comes with risks. Each of us has to do his own risk analysis to decide whether the positive result of the experience is worth the risk, and then do his own risk management. The results are not the same for everyone, and so neither is the proper course of risk management. Of course the government--the people who told us Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 and who pay subsidies to corporate tobacco farms--is clearly not qualified to do risk analysis for us. Especially its trademark WalMart-style "one size fits all" risk management.In sum, a growing body of clinical and epidemiologic research suggests significant but complex links between cannabis use and psychosis.
No. But based on centuries of empirical observation, it is more benign than alcohol or nicotine, roughly on a par with caffeine. Caffeine is a major mental health problem for me, and I'm hardly alone.And I don't know anyone in the movement that says it's totally benign, with no side effects whatsoever.
I didn't find that assertion in your link. Is the point that psychotic people are more creative than the rest of us? That would be easy to believe. I've known many people who were more creative when stoned, and were easily able to retain their revelations and exploit them later. That's one of the reasons pot is so popular among musicians.Psychosis is also linked to creativity.
There is growing evidence of a link between the use of marijuana and mental disease.http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Addictions/18722
Marijuana use at a young age significantly increased the risk of psychosis in young adulthood, Australian investigators reported.
Young adults who reported a longer duration since first exposure to marijuana had a two- to fourfold greater prevalence of three different psychosis-related outcomes, John McGrath, MD, PhD, of the Queensland Center for Mental Health Research in Wacol, and colleagues concluded in an article published online in Archives of General Psychiatry.
Several prospective-cohort studies have demonstrated an association between early marijuana use and an increased risk of psychosis. On the basis of such studies, reviews of the issue have generally concluded that early use of marijuana, or cannabis, is a modifiable risk factor for psychosis-related outcomes, the authors wrote.
More info from another article:
Several lines of evidence support the potential biologic plausibility of these links between cannabis use and psychosis. First, exogenous (eg, Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) and endogenous cannabinoids (eg, anandamide) exert their effects (such as modulating the release of neurotransmitters including dopamine and glutamate) by interactions with specific cannabinoid (CB1) receptors that are distributed in brain regions implicated in schizophrenia. Second, several studies have shown an increased CB1 receptor density in brain regions of interest in schizophrenia, including the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex and the anterior cingulate cortex.[17,18] Third, other studies report elevated levels of endogenous cannabinoids in the blood and cerebrospinal fluid of patients with schizophrenia.[19-21] Fourth, acute, controlled administration of Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol causes both patients and controls to experience transient increases in cognitive impairments and schizophrenia-like positive and negative symptoms.[22] In summarizing these and many other findings, Fernandez-Espejo and colleagues[23] have suggested that the endocannabinoid system is altered in schizophrenia and that dysregulation of this system, perhaps induced by exogenous cannabis, can interact with neurotransmitter systems in a way so that a "cannabinoid hypothesis" can be integrated with other neurobiologic hypotheses (eg, those involving dopamine and glutamate).http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/719139
Conclusion
In sum, a growing body of clinical and epidemiologic research suggests significant but complex links between cannabis use and psychosis. Concurrently, ongoing neurobiologic research is revealing findings in the endocannabinoid system that appear to support the biologic plausibility of such links. It should be noted that much of the research conducted to date does not allow for causal determinations. Ongoing research of varying designs will undoubtedly enlighten the field.
Well duh! Children are still growing; that's why we don't call them adults. The circuits in their brains have a lot of development left, as does the regulation of their endocrine system. Their judgment is being formed from their experiences, so the distorted experience of being high will distort their judgment.Marijuana use at a young age significantly increased the risk of psychosis in young adulthood, Australian investigators reported.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I agree with that contention. My point is that there are already more than enough reasons not to let kids have drugs, yet people let kids have drugs anyway. The accretion of one more reason is not going to win this argument. There is quite a bit of irrationality on both sides.no one seems to be contesting that marijuana may exacerbate psychosis in those with an existing condition, but to suggest that marijuana use increases the risk in young adulthood is unsupported (and you will note, if you review the study itself, that the researchers agree).
... appear to support the biologic plausibility of such links. It should be noted that much of the research conducted to date does not allow for causal determinations.
Nothing I said is not supported by the studies linked.alright, i actually have little interest in this particular subject matter--i am more interested in the matter of moderators on a science forum being held accountable for the nonsense they spew.
fraggle has had the decency to clarify his position in the matter, but Hercules and Madant, well...
so Madant, which is it? were you in fact being willfully misleading here? or are you simply incapable of reading through a simple, mainstream news story and recognizing that what is stated initially does NOT follow from the study, or studies, linked?
I made no claim of a causal relationship between marijuana and psychosis. I simply pointed out the growing evidence of a link and some information regarding a plausible mechanism that might suggest that said link is not mere coincidence. However, as clearly stated in the information quoted in the OP:oh, and apparently "all" scientists/doctors are NOT "very much aware of cause and effect"--well, i guess optometrists aren't really doctors.
Nothing I said is not supported by the studies linked.
I made no claim of a causal relationship between marijuana and psychosis. I simply pointed out the growing evidence of a link and some information regarding a plausible mechanism that might suggest that said link is not mere coincidence. However, as clearly stated in the information quoted in the OP:
It should be noted that much of the research conducted to date does not allow for causal determinations. Ongoing research of varying designs will undoubtedly enlighten the fieldSo I don't know what the hell you're all worked up about.
And please refrain from personal attacks in future posts.
Marijuana use at a young age significantly increased the risk of psychosis in young adulthood, Australian investigators reported.
There is nothing in the OP not supported by science .
I said nothing I said was not supported by the linked material. The above quote is from one of the articles I linked to. I didn't write it. Go bitch to Charles Bankhead if you like.uhh, have you read through the thread? sorry, but this:
Marijuana use at a young age significantly increased the risk of psychosis in young adulthood,Australian investigators reported.
is not supported by the study. IOW the australian investigators did NOT claim this. and neither do any of the other studies..
Honestly marijuana use is so common you could probably do a study and link it to every damn problem in the freakin world.
Marijuana is about as harmfull as the air we breathe today.