It is illegal to cut into the profits of a certain large corporation specializing in GM products. Do I really have to name them?Georgia Man Fined $5000 for Growing Vegetables
A Georgia resident who has been an organic farmer for years is now facing $5000 dollars in fines for growing too many vegetables on his OWN land. That’s right.
Steve Miller, who has sold some of his produce at local farmers markets, as well as growing food for himself, is likely the victim of an Online Aerial Invasion of Property
Man Fined $5000 for Growing Vegetables
- Thread starter Brian Foley
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not nessarly brian, you know (or should) as well as i do that the food and water surplies are 2 areas which people EXPECT goverments to heavly regulate for saftey reasons. Now your story asks does he have an expectation of privacy, if its a private home and what he grows is for personal consumption or even freely shared with friends then sure, if its a business then NO he doesnt have ANY expectation of privacy and should be regulated the same as anyother food buinesss.
However now i read through your site i wonder did it even happen
list of other stories includes "9/11 Was An Inside Job, Who Did It and How?"
No, it's illegal to operate a commercial farm on land zoned for residential use. This is a non-story.
America has some retarded zoning laws.
It's not like he just got carried away with his personal vegetable garden or something. He had so much stuff growing that he had to hire workers to take care of the crops, and he was selling most of what he grew at a market.
Obviously the zoning was stupid because they changed it.
What's happening to America =/
I guess in the sense that any time zoning changes it means that the old zoning was "stupid," since someone has decided to change it. But just because he was able to persuade the zoning board that they should change his zoning now, in 2010, it doesn't necessarily mean that the zoning was stupid when it was enacted.
Anyway, the bottom line is that this guy's problems didn't have anything to do with GM food companies, or whatever Brian Foley is going on about. As for the whole "aerial invasion of privacy" thing, you don't need a spy satellite to figure out that someone is farming illegally. You just need to notice "Hey, that guy is selling tons of vegetables (literally) at the market, but he doesn't own a farm. I wonder where's he's getting them?" Or the authorities could have learned about the farm from one of the farm hands who he hired to work there. That's just two explanations off the top of my head that both seem a lot more likely to me than the government spying on him from above.
They didn't change the law. He rezoned his land.
I don't live in a subdivision and will never live in a subdivision because it allows someone besides the government to decide what I can/can not do with my land.
A subdivision near my work does not allow visitors. How do they not allow visitors? They do not allow on the street parking. All parking must be in driveways. The homeowners association has stealth tow trucks (they are stealth because they look like ordinary pick up trucks until the hidden lifts pop out from underneath) patrolling the subdivision seeking violators.
They also don't allow to to open a business in your home, if customers need to come to you. Want to open an online tech support business? That's cool. Want to do PC repairs in your home? Not allowed.
No it's true. I think it was in Greece where they have a pool tax, and they used google earth to find people with unlicensed pools.
—bureauholic addiction.
The politicians get paid off by the factory farmers and the big truckers. So, from time to time they act to discourage small-scale local farming.
In theory, they support organic foods and local produce, because that’s obviously the green thing to do. But in fact, this stuff is competing with the vegetables trucked in to the supermarket from elsewhere.
It’s MY land — I’ll grow what I WANT to. As long as I’m NOT growing an ILLEGAL plant, then stay OFF my property.
I've heard several stories as of late of ridiculous homeowners associations and their ridiculous rules. What a bunch of anal bitches.
It's reasonable to ask where private land use for growing food can be regulated. The only objection I can possibly see is that he was operating a business that the local government wanted to tax?
On the subject of illegal plants...
Whatever happened to the proposal in some city in Oklahoma that gardens should be outlawed altogether because people might grow marijuana on them?
Or was it Kansas? Darn it. I can't remember. I am having trouble finding a story on it.
Here is a story that is not quite the same. There are many about petty ordinances and regulations about what and how and where you may grow.
http://www.thisgardenisillegal.com/2006/06/no-really-my-garden-is-illegal.html
Here's another one:
Dallas Has A Dirty Secret: It Acts As If Supports the Community Gardens Movement, But That's Not the Real Truth
And there's this..
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2040183
If anyone recalls or can find the story of the pathetic excuse of "they might grow marijuana" being used to outlaw home gardens, please post it.
tax is only 1 issue, what about the regulation of the food surplie as demanded by the people? For instance if lead levels were to high in the food and people died yes this man would be blamed but so would goverment authorites who "should have been monitoring to make sure this didnt happen"
Mmmm. Lead is everywhere!
I haven't heard any stories of lead poisoning from backyard gardens.
Safety issues are valid. I would think anyone with an operation like that would test soil for many reasons, to determine nutrients as well as toxins, especially for someone who ostensibly grows organic vegetables.
If the operation is over a certain size, then requiring some soil testing for contaminants is reasonable.
That said.. scare tactics involving minutiae and "what if" scenarios are a favorite for people who think government should regulate everything down to the last detail. You know, to save that one life that might otherwise be lost?
Why not require everyone to test their soil every year? After all, there could be a gardener who gives some bell peppers with nasty levels of lead to a neighbor.
Come to think of it, don't let anyone share food, period. Everyone keeps their food to themselves. No more sending Christmas cookies and chocolate bars to the people next door or the old couple across the street. No telling WHAT could be in those WMDs!
Ah, so now it has changed from a rant about "big GM food" trying to protect its profits by keeping the little guy down into a rant about zoning laws? Let me know when you figure out exactly what it is you're upset about.
Anyway, most people like zoning laws - the majority of people don't want to have houses, businesses, factories, and farms jumbled together.
I can't help but wonder about how differently people here would feel if dozens of people in the region died of salmonella poision and it was discovered that the food came from this "nice" man's garden?
Wanna' bet that they'd all be screaming for "government regulations and laws"?? ...LOL!
Is there anything that people won't complain about? Anything?
Baron Max
Wanna' bet that they'd all be screaming for "government regulations and laws"?? ...LOL!
Is there anything that people won't complain about? Anything?
Baron Max
isnt that what i said? but i used lead rather than salmonella