Moved from above to restart the topic after hijacking by Prometheus.
You might want to be on topic once in awhile so here is something on topic. The thread is named, “Limiting Energy Density and Mass Function Range”.
The fifteen steps that I put in the follow up post to Dragon were in response to his observation that black holes exert gravity, bringing into question my statement about there being a point where energy density exceeds the mass functioning range. I had expressed the idea that when mass ceases to function it causes gravity to cease being emitted, and leads to the destruction of the big crunch, i.e. leads to the big bang event.
Connecting the discussion that Dragon entered into to the topic of the thread is easy and he was perfectly on topic. The limit of energy density, as I explained to him was approached when the accumulation in the crunch reached much larger proportions than that of a common stellar black hole.
The black holes in the center of galaxies also exert gravity obviously but it is not obvious if there is any negation of mass to dense state energy in a galactic black hole. As I had suggested, there can be an equilibrium or near equilibrium established between the gravity of a galactic black hole and the accretion of matter into it if the negation of matter is occurring at or near the same rate as the accretion.
But this post is directed to the phrase “limiting energy density”. If there is negation of matter into dense state energy at some point in the accumulation of mass in massive black holes then that point where negation begins and mass is converted to dense state energy marks the higher density end of the mass functioning range and marks the lower end of the beginning of dense state energy density range. The top end of the dense state energy density range would be the maximum possible energy density. In QWC the concept of this maximum limit of energy density precludes there ever being infinite energy density, but no one really believes in infinite energy density do they.
EDIT: Just a quick note to follow the last point: Without a limit to energy density, i.e. if we leave open the possibility of infinite energy density, it would permit all of the matter and energy in the entire greater universe, not just our arena, to fall in. The possibility of such a catastrophe would exist if it weren’t for the thresholds and limits.
It follows that if the greater universe has always existed as is proposed by QWC, then indications are that such a catastrophe will never occur. The simple existence of a 14 billion year old arena like ours in the process of accelerating expansion indicates that limits are in place to prevent any final catastrophic big crunch outcome.
The greater universe itself would be homogeneous and isotropic. The landscape of the greater universe would be filled with arenas each like our observable universe, playing out the various stages of intersection with other arenas, overlap, collapse of the galactic matter caught in the overlap into a big crunch, big burst, expansion, intersection with other arenas, overlap, collapse, big crunch, big burst, you get the idea. There would be a potentially infinite number of arenas playing out at all times and an infinite history of time throughout which arenas have formed and played out. This would make for an energy background throughout the entire greater universe made up of CMBR which would be homogeneous and isotropic.
There are two parts of the cosmological principle; one says that on a grand scale the universe should look the same in all directions from any point within it, and the other says it should look the same on a grand scale at all times. QWC complies both from a structure standpoint, i.e. the arenas, and from a background standpoint, i.e. CMBR.
Quantum Wave Cosmology (QWC) is my personal cosmology. The methodology that I use for speculation is described in the Introduction section of that link.
