Has anyone else read that Paul wrote under the pseudonym of Josephus?
----------Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
What do you think, and why?
Then you should supply (a) the evidence proving him to be a fraud, a (b) the logic that suggests that a fraudulent Paul is evidence of the hand of Josephus, plus statistical evidence relating to word usage and writing styles. Otherwise, you prove yourself to be little more than some conspiricist fruitloop eagerly embracing whatever fringe theory comes your way.Originally posted by Medicine*Woman
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I'm inclined to believe he did, because he was a fraud.
Originally posted by Raha
Why do you hate poor Paul so much, MW?
So, do you also hate Josephus? And what of Ezra? And your Egyptian Moses-construct, do you hate him as well?Originally posted by Medicine*Woman
He's the CAUSE of Xianity.
Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
So, do you also hate Josephus? And what of Ezra? And your Egyptian Moses-construct, do you hate him as well?
Sadly, you seem far more willing to hate than research.
Originally posted by Medicine*Woman
Don't put words in my mouth, CA. I never said the word "hate."
Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
Q) "Why do you hate poor Paul so much, MW?"
A) "He's the CAUSE of Xianity."
To assert that I am putting words in your mouth is absurd. To suggest that I am being intentionally dishonest is simply paranoid.
Originally posted by Redoubtable
Flavius Josephus was a younger contemporary of Paul's. He was an avid Jewish historian who wrote of the antiquities of his culture, the revolt of his people against the Romans, an autobiography, and other miscellaneous pieces.
He was once the quintessential source of information on the Judean state of affairs of the First century of the Common Era, and was widely read during the Renaissance. Like Paul, he was once a member of the Judaic pontifical elite, a Pharisee, in fact, and later dwelt in Rome.
His works were written in Greek, and it is thought that Paul was also very well-versed in this language.
Here's a source:
Flavius Josephus
This seems to be as close as it gets, MW.
I respect your opinion and will give it further consideration.Originally posted by tiassa
As one who has been around this site for several years, as one who has penned 7.100 posts, I say yes, you are putting words in M*W's mouth.
You will forgive me, however, if I find this comment unworthy of respect. My reaction to "the topic in the first place" was one of contempt for what I viewed as a rhetorical method of floating a position without ever taking responsibility for it, much less offering evidence in support of it. As someone who holds a less than respectful attitude towards the NT in general, I would be delighted to find that Josephus penned Paul, and I'll eagerly consider any scholarship supporting such a claim. I fully suspect that none will be forthcoming.Originally posted by tiassa
Of course, I wonder why you're afraid of the topic in the first place.
Nothing to forgive, as I find disrespect and challenge are your preferred methods. What authority do I have to assess, forgive, or absolve the "sins" of your communication?You will forgive me, however, if I find this comment unworthy of respect
Well, obviously you don't have anything else but your contempt to bring, else you would have brought it. I've heard the topic assertion before, but have never found a reliable vein of information to make it clear to me.My reaction to "the topic in the first place" was one of contempt for what I viewed as a rhetorical method of floating a position without ever taking responsibility for it, much less offering evidence in support of it.
And, as always, better thinkers will do your homework for you.As someone who holds a less than respectful attitude towards the NT in general, I would be delighted to find that Josephus penned Paul, and I'll eagerly consider any scholarship supporting such a claim. I fully suspect that none will be forthcoming.
Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
I respect your opinion and will give it further consideration.
You will forgive me, however, if I find this comment unworthy of respect. My reaction to "the topic in the first place" was one of contempt for what I viewed as a rhetorical method of floating a position without ever taking responsibility for it, much less offering evidence in support of it. As someone who holds a less than respectful attitude towards the NT in general, I would be delighted to find that Josephus penned Paul, and I'll eagerly consider any scholarship supporting such a claim. I fully suspect that none will be forthcoming.