I posted this somewhere else, theres two posts here, in one, so it's pretty long, any comments would be great
"My yoke is easy, my burden is light" Math.11'30 KJV
There have been three western travelers to the Northern Idian/Kashmir regins, they never knew each other amd had around fifty year intervals between them they were each shown scrolls by Buddhist Monks that say Jesus, or a man called Issa (his name in Hebrew) came from Isreal and traveled around Kashmir, Northern India and Nepal, to learn from the Hindu and Buddhist Masters, he arrived when he was 14 and left when he was 28 with the idea of going back to Isreal to free his people, they mention specificaly that amoungst other thngs he learnt how to heal, caste out evil spirits and raise the dead, for centuries around this region there has been stories told about a Saint Issa and are still told today, and whats more is that on one of the trade routes through the Middle East to India there is a spring that was supposedly blessed by Jesus that is still caled Issa's Spring, so I suppose it hasn't gone dry,
Considering that Jesus would have been very willing to learn about the Soul, God etc. and the fact that he was payed a vistit by three "wise men from the East" at his birth, well you get the idea, but when you couple this with the fact that there never was a "Trinity" in the Jewish doctorine until Jesus showed up, but the Hindus had the Sat, Chitta, Ananda for at least 1,000 years prior, and the Buddhist the Saymbokaya, Nimanyakaya and Dharmakaya scince Saykumini Buddha (SP.ahh), 500 years prior, the Jews already had the Holy Spirit and The Father, all that was needed was the only begotten son and to put them in order, the Hindus also preach that the the only way to God(The Ultimate Reality ie. God) is through the Chitta, their is also evidence to sujest that the very word Christ was taken from the language of Indian/Kashmir region and put into Greek language when Alexander the Great ventured there, he also had a great interest in Vedic philosophy,
Their are many paralles in the Christian and Vedic philosophies(and it's progressors) but one that I find startling is Jesus proclaimed relationship with The Father,
"I am in my Father and my Father is in me"
"I do not know all that my Father knows"
Now these to statemants taken together fit in exactly with the Eastern deffinitions of God union (Samadhi and Nirvana) Krishna in the Bagavad Gita speaking from God, or God through him, says "I am in all men and all men are in me" implying exactly as Jesus does, union, at oneness, but still with a degree of seperation, as both Jesus and the Eastern sages do, if their wasn't a degree of seperation, however small, the second statement is made void,
but I came across the quote from Mathew,
"My yoke is easy, my burden is light" Math.11'30 KJV
Yoga means union, union with the ultimate reality, the cosmic self, God, the root word for yoga and yoke, is thought to be the same, a Sanskrit word,
Prayer, fasting and surreder to God are integeral parts of Eastern Yoga, the same in Jewish and Christian yoga, but I think that there was something more that has scince be lost in time, but why and how I don''t know, one thing is that higher Yogic meathods of both East and West were only be passed on to worthy people, and were kept very secret, right up until the 19th century, in both erea's, so maybe this is why, can anybody tell me where I might find a lit of the sucessors of the 12 apostles
If anybody can offer any evidence for or against any of this I would be very greatful,
2nd. Part
Many people made the journey from the Dead Sea area into Kashmir and India, there were many who used the one od the old trade routes that went past the Spring that Jesus reputedly blessed,
This is what I come to know about Jesus going there, in more detial,
Their was a religious explorer, named Norwitch, who had great interest in Eastern Philosophies, this was in the 19th. century, he came across a very isolated monastary hidden in the ruged terrain some where around Kasmir, Pakistan, I've forgetten exactly where, when talking to the Monks, (he stayed there with them for a while and gained their trust) one of the older more imporant monks told him that they had a scroll that they would like him to see, it was dictated to him through a translator, the scroll said that at the time Jesus was on the Earth, their was a great saint that came to this area, Issa - Jesus, he walkied all around this region with soem Brahmin Priests who wrote the scolls, he preformed many miracles, healings ect. And stories have been told about him ever scince, the scrolls say that he arived from Isreal at the age of 14, then left at the age of 28 with the intention of going back to Isreal to "free his people," this is the story that has been told scince, along with his miracle actions, by the people seperate from the knowledge of the scolls,
After Norwith got back he wrote a book about what he found, and was basicaly disowned by every one who new about it, One of his greatest critics went to the region, to the monastry, but was told that the scrolls didn't exist, but in his book (Norwitch) writes that the only reason he was shown them was be cause he initaily learnt all of the customs of the local people and spent enough time with the monks, I think that he was ill which is why they let him stay with them at all, to, as I said, gain their respect and trust,
Then a number of decades latter their was another guy, strictly an explorer, with no interest in the religions at all, he had heard of Norwitch and what he claimed at an earlier period, but nothing of details, maybe he was the one who got sick, I can't remember but he saw the same scrolls, but only devoted a paragraph of his book, written about what he saw, so there is no reason to sujest that he lied about what he saw, as he didn't expect that he would get any recognition for it, and his book wasn't widely read in the first place as it was a travel journel, but basicaly confermed what Norwitch had said,
Then their was a third lady who, in the 60's or 70's, went to saty in a Buddhist monastry in India, she no idea of the scrolls existance, but was one day shown a copy that these monks had in there possesion, once agin conferming the existance, and actualy took photographs of them,
So either the scrolls are the invention of a monk, who had heard of Jesus, or they are true historical documents
If the first were true their would be no stories being told about Saint Issa by the lower castes as they has no knowledge of the scrolls either, and as archiological digs have proven, not only are the stories of these people true renditions of real events, they sometimes are even less spectacular than the true facts,
I'm sure I'm missing some things, my memories not the greatest, but thats about the jist of it
"My yoke is easy, my burden is light" Math.11'30 KJV
There have been three western travelers to the Northern Idian/Kashmir regins, they never knew each other amd had around fifty year intervals between them they were each shown scrolls by Buddhist Monks that say Jesus, or a man called Issa (his name in Hebrew) came from Isreal and traveled around Kashmir, Northern India and Nepal, to learn from the Hindu and Buddhist Masters, he arrived when he was 14 and left when he was 28 with the idea of going back to Isreal to free his people, they mention specificaly that amoungst other thngs he learnt how to heal, caste out evil spirits and raise the dead, for centuries around this region there has been stories told about a Saint Issa and are still told today, and whats more is that on one of the trade routes through the Middle East to India there is a spring that was supposedly blessed by Jesus that is still caled Issa's Spring, so I suppose it hasn't gone dry,
Considering that Jesus would have been very willing to learn about the Soul, God etc. and the fact that he was payed a vistit by three "wise men from the East" at his birth, well you get the idea, but when you couple this with the fact that there never was a "Trinity" in the Jewish doctorine until Jesus showed up, but the Hindus had the Sat, Chitta, Ananda for at least 1,000 years prior, and the Buddhist the Saymbokaya, Nimanyakaya and Dharmakaya scince Saykumini Buddha (SP.ahh), 500 years prior, the Jews already had the Holy Spirit and The Father, all that was needed was the only begotten son and to put them in order, the Hindus also preach that the the only way to God(The Ultimate Reality ie. God) is through the Chitta, their is also evidence to sujest that the very word Christ was taken from the language of Indian/Kashmir region and put into Greek language when Alexander the Great ventured there, he also had a great interest in Vedic philosophy,
Their are many paralles in the Christian and Vedic philosophies(and it's progressors) but one that I find startling is Jesus proclaimed relationship with The Father,
"I am in my Father and my Father is in me"
"I do not know all that my Father knows"
Now these to statemants taken together fit in exactly with the Eastern deffinitions of God union (Samadhi and Nirvana) Krishna in the Bagavad Gita speaking from God, or God through him, says "I am in all men and all men are in me" implying exactly as Jesus does, union, at oneness, but still with a degree of seperation, as both Jesus and the Eastern sages do, if their wasn't a degree of seperation, however small, the second statement is made void,
but I came across the quote from Mathew,
"My yoke is easy, my burden is light" Math.11'30 KJV
Yoga means union, union with the ultimate reality, the cosmic self, God, the root word for yoga and yoke, is thought to be the same, a Sanskrit word,
Prayer, fasting and surreder to God are integeral parts of Eastern Yoga, the same in Jewish and Christian yoga, but I think that there was something more that has scince be lost in time, but why and how I don''t know, one thing is that higher Yogic meathods of both East and West were only be passed on to worthy people, and were kept very secret, right up until the 19th century, in both erea's, so maybe this is why, can anybody tell me where I might find a lit of the sucessors of the 12 apostles
If anybody can offer any evidence for or against any of this I would be very greatful,
2nd. Part
Many people made the journey from the Dead Sea area into Kashmir and India, there were many who used the one od the old trade routes that went past the Spring that Jesus reputedly blessed,
This is what I come to know about Jesus going there, in more detial,
Their was a religious explorer, named Norwitch, who had great interest in Eastern Philosophies, this was in the 19th. century, he came across a very isolated monastary hidden in the ruged terrain some where around Kasmir, Pakistan, I've forgetten exactly where, when talking to the Monks, (he stayed there with them for a while and gained their trust) one of the older more imporant monks told him that they had a scroll that they would like him to see, it was dictated to him through a translator, the scroll said that at the time Jesus was on the Earth, their was a great saint that came to this area, Issa - Jesus, he walkied all around this region with soem Brahmin Priests who wrote the scolls, he preformed many miracles, healings ect. And stories have been told about him ever scince, the scrolls say that he arived from Isreal at the age of 14, then left at the age of 28 with the intention of going back to Isreal to "free his people," this is the story that has been told scince, along with his miracle actions, by the people seperate from the knowledge of the scolls,
After Norwith got back he wrote a book about what he found, and was basicaly disowned by every one who new about it, One of his greatest critics went to the region, to the monastry, but was told that the scrolls didn't exist, but in his book (Norwitch) writes that the only reason he was shown them was be cause he initaily learnt all of the customs of the local people and spent enough time with the monks, I think that he was ill which is why they let him stay with them at all, to, as I said, gain their respect and trust,
Then a number of decades latter their was another guy, strictly an explorer, with no interest in the religions at all, he had heard of Norwitch and what he claimed at an earlier period, but nothing of details, maybe he was the one who got sick, I can't remember but he saw the same scrolls, but only devoted a paragraph of his book, written about what he saw, so there is no reason to sujest that he lied about what he saw, as he didn't expect that he would get any recognition for it, and his book wasn't widely read in the first place as it was a travel journel, but basicaly confermed what Norwitch had said,
Then their was a third lady who, in the 60's or 70's, went to saty in a Buddhist monastry in India, she no idea of the scrolls existance, but was one day shown a copy that these monks had in there possesion, once agin conferming the existance, and actualy took photographs of them,
So either the scrolls are the invention of a monk, who had heard of Jesus, or they are true historical documents
If the first were true their would be no stories being told about Saint Issa by the lower castes as they has no knowledge of the scrolls either, and as archiological digs have proven, not only are the stories of these people true renditions of real events, they sometimes are even less spectacular than the true facts,
I'm sure I'm missing some things, my memories not the greatest, but thats about the jist of it
