James R's Independent Review Process

[Me-Ki-Gal]

Actually I do go in for a certain amount of Madonna. If nothing else, she can frequently afford and attract top talent on the production side.

interesting Country Madonna . That happened in my out of touch days . Tennis Tennyson" s House of asses and elbows

 

[Tiassa]

For the law of ....

i think i shall ask for a second opinion. perhaps tiassa can weigh in, hmm?
it seems my integrity is under attack and being questioned

Of course it is. This is the internet, damn it.

Oh, that's probably not useful.

Okay, look. James is well aware of my critique of your "offenses".

I don't think anyone paying attention doesn't in some way already know what I think.

But I also know that the webulous nature of this community is such that your effort is an exercise in futility.

There are essentially two general schools of thought represented here. One is that it's a matter of rules. The other is that it's a matter of degrees.

In this case, degrees of offense, perceived.

If I must offer an opinion, it will be that those who have understanding can reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

Oh, wait. Sorry. Wrong story.

Nonetheless, the clues are all there. There's no mystery where I stand on the question, in general or particular.

 

[James R]

i categorically deny i am trolling.

Fine.

furthermore despite my repeated explanations, you still insist that i am perpetrating a fraud.

It's really not a major issue - unless you wish to make it so.

I suggest you drop it.

consult a thesaurus. you do know what they are right? then indulge in some rational thought and consider logical implications.

Already did that, and posted an appropriate definition earlier in the thread. Remember?

others had posted their selections and no one was even questioning whether the various posts were eclectic in nature or selected by some objective criteria

Correct.

no one seemed to care
until now

Nobody cares now, either. Except you.

it is delusions of grandiosity on the part of that dj and the Great Gustav that promotes these base impulses? correct?

I can't speak for either the DJ or Gustav. You can speak for yourself, can't you. Why don't you tell us all your intentions?

how the term eclectic be utilized? what would be the proper context?

Consult a thesaurus. You know what they are, right?

Christ, what a total shithead

/facepalm

Don't call Gustav a shithead! He won't like you any more.

 

[Gustav]

It's really not a major issue - unless you wish to make it so.

I suggest you drop it.

i see
slandering members with accusations of willful deceit and disingenuity is just another day in sciforums for you?

why do you think i should drop an issue where there is a clear attempt at a character assassination? mine to be exact? by you?

integrity matters to me. it should matter to all of us. i am mystified as to why you would have such a low opinion of that concept

i mean, you slander, i protest
your only rejoinder is to say....drop it?

i think we should aim higher
have more lofty goals
sciforums will benefit
you should retract and apologize

Already did that, and posted an appropriate definition earlier in the thread. Remember?

of eclecticism? sure
unfortunately that is not the reference
you seem to be having a hard time keeping track of a handful of posts
allow me to nudge your memory

that is.... consult a thesaurus if you do not know why you are implying i am disingenuous and deceitful when you accuse me of being self-serving and misleading as is done here......

They are random in that they don't define eclecticism. They merely reflect Gustav's personal tastes. The thread title is self-serving and misleading.

The title was self-serving and misleading, yes.

why are you having such difficulties with the english language? you are a native speaker, correct?

I can't speak for either the DJ or Gustav. You can speak for yourself, can't you. Why don't you tell us all your intentions?

intentions? towards what? a thread created 2 years ago? the title?
who is "us" by the way. you mean there are more trolls in sci that profess a similar antipathy towards a 2 year old thread title? i

/sigh

lemme repost......

i will work with this....

Morning Becomes Eclectic is committed to a music experience that celebrates innovation, creativity and diversity by combining progressive pop, world beat, jazz, African, reggae, classical and new music.​

that is, anything that is not mainstream, perhaps somewhat obscure and experimental, can fall into that category. it could be within any number of different genres

now it is true that my taste in music is entirely subjective. that is what "taste in music" usually signifies. it holds true for anyone

yet that alone does not preclude the fact that my choice of music in that thread can be eclectic, ie: not mainstream]

even the presence of some pop artists like Madonna (which i sheepishly posted amongst others) should not disallow or render inaccurate the description contained in the thread title. folks like parmalee more than made up for that "lapse in judgment"

after all, is anal the new M.O?

ok
that dispenses with the eclectic portion of the title. on to the sciforums part

i chose sciforums because something like that engenders the community spirit
hopefully in an eclectic manner

ja,i am cool like that

the thread was created about 2 years ago and roughly little over 50% of the posts are not mine.

as for my intentions.... i never gave it a second thought, never thought about good or bad intentions

i mean, it is a music thread
the concept and idea that i was perpetrating a fraud on the community never even entered my mind

until now
until you came along, james

and i think i know the game plan
you are going to hang this charge on me, get that point on and permaban
rather underhand i think, but hey if that is how you get your rocks off, there nothing much i can do about it.

/pained but resigned

hey i have an idea
perhaps you can change the title to something that is less offensive to your sensibilities?

/hopeful

how about....The Great Gustav's Shitty Music Thread?

/rotfl

 

[Gustav]

Okay, look. James is well aware of my critique of your "offenses".

well there is one in a particular

a allegedly controversial topic title
its a thread you had even participated in. did you have similar reservations?

i am asking you because in matters like this, where semantics is the issue, a consensus has more weight than a single subjective opinion

we have a title...Sciforums Becomes Eclectic
we have a critique of title.... Self-Serving and Misleading

what are your thoughts?

 

[Gustav]

james

you omitted a reply to a rather relevant question
in the context of music.......does subjectivity preclude eclecticism?

for instance... "gustav has eclectic tastes in music"

why is that an impossible state of affairs (as evinced by your assertion).....

They are random in that they don't define eclecticism. They merely reflect Gustav's personal tastes. The thread title is self-serving and misleading.

......??

In this context, the selection of music from many different styles or genres

do you know how easily that is put to the test? all one has to is examine the contents of the thread in question

now
with all the scientific rigor and methodology you can muster, go forth and conduct an investigation. show me some science in action

/chortle


hmm
maybe i'll ask frag as well since in that thread he addresses me.....

We like a lot of the same bands. King's X keeps coming through here on tour but I keep missing them.

You'd probably appreciate this one, although there's no video. Alana is Miles Davis's daughter. She writes her own songs and plays acoustic guitar with a laid back band that's ever so slightly folk-musicky. But her big "hit" was a cover of Ani DiFranco's "32 Flavors." She also does a spooky acoustic version of "Don't Fear the Reaper.

... with that. i wonder if he considers his tastes to be eclectic. fairly? mostly? not at all?

frag?

/falls down laughing

 

[James R]

Gustav:

i see
slandering members with accusations of willful deceit and disingenuity is just another day in sciforums for you?

I have not accused you of either wilful deceit or disinguenuity.

Methinks you protest too much.

why do you think i should drop an issue where there is a clear attempt at a character assassination? mine to be exact? by you?

I think you should go back to where this was started - by quadraphonics. Nobody is trying to assassinate your character.

integrity matters to me. it should matter to all of us. i am mystified as to why you would have such a low opinion of that concept

Once again, you're plucking assumptions out of the air.

i mean, you slander, i protest
your only rejoinder is to say....drop it?

My suggestion was that you ought to post content rather than meta-content to sciforums.

you seem to be having a hard time keeping track of a handful of posts

No, not really. (Was that an insult?)

that is.... consult a thesaurus if you do not know why you are implying i am disingenuous and deceitful when you accuse me of being self-serving and misleading as is done here......

I said your thread title was self-serving and misleading. Not quite the same thing. I don't think your thesaurus will help you here.

why are you having such difficulties with the english language? you are a native speaker, correct?

I don't think you're in a great position to start lecturing people on the English language.

Ja?
/sneer
/snigger
/splat
/sigh

For example, does your keyboard have a shift key? I'm betting it does. So, have you heard of capital letters?

You really don't want to start down this path. Not in your position. Trust me.

intentions? towards what? a thread created 2 years ago? the title?
who is "us" by the way. you mean there are more trolls in sci that profess a similar antipathy towards a 2 year old thread title?

By "us" I mean whoever is reading this thread. Which probably isn't too many people. Who could be bothered? Probably it's just you and I, - and quadraphonics of course.

as for my intentions.... i never gave it a second thought, never thought about good or bad intentions

i mean, it is a music thread
the concept and idea that i was perpetrating a fraud on the community never even entered my mind

Fine. It's all good then. Ja?

and i think i know the game plan
you are going to hang this charge on me, get that point on and permaban
rather underhand i think, but hey if that is how you get your rocks off, there nothing much i can do about it.

Sounds like you're trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Martyr complex much? Ja?

hey i have an idea
perhaps you can change the title to something that is less offensive to your sensibilities?

If I thought it needed changing, I would have changed it when you started the thread - what was it? - two years ago?

/roflmao

(Well, not really.)

 

[Tiassa]

Endless Boldless

Gustav:

I can only reiterate:

There's no mystery where I stand on the question, in general or particular.​

 

[Gustav]

james

please retract and apologize if you are unable to justify your vile accusations
thank you

if you do neither, let it be known that you are a nasty, spiteful and opportunistic individual without any sense of morality for assassinating my character in order to troll quad

You really don't want to start down this path. Not in your position. Trust me.

ah
the threat of a ban
i wondered how long that would have taken to surface
what path is that anyway?
lecturing you about your english?
that will earn me a permaban?

is that what you are asserting?

well here you go
your lecture in english

I said your thread title was self-serving and misleading. Not quite the same thing. I don't think your thesaurus will help you here.

I don't think you're in a great position to start lecturing people on the English language.

You really don't want to start down this path. Not in your position. Trust me.

 

[Gustav]

Gustav:

I can only reiterate:

There's no mystery where I stand on the question, in general or particular.​

well alright
i know

 

[Gustav]

i was kinda happy go lucky in my eclectic thread
but that was then
i now feel self-conscious when posting
i feel judgmental eyes on me

/paranoid

thanks a lot, james
you are one hell of an administrator

oh
me-ki-gal is now posting in eclectic
for that, you have earned my undying hatred

/cackle

 

[James R]

please retract and apologize if you are unable to justify your vile accusations

What accusations?

if you do neither, let it be known that you are a nasty, spiteful and opportunistic individual without any sense of morality for assassinating my character in order to troll quad

What? Quadraphonics brought up your music thread, not me. Read back.

the threat of a ban
i wondered how long that would have taken to surface
what path is that anyway?
lecturing you about your english?
that will earn me a permaban?

If I wanted to threaten you with a ban, I'd be explicit about it.

I merely advised you that you might not want to go head to head picking each other's grammatical and other mistakes, because chances are you'll come out looking like a bit of a dill (you might need to look that one up).

 

[Gustav]

excellent
and so it shall be known......

but wait.....

I don't think you're in a great position to start lecturing people on the English language.

For example, does your keyboard have a shift key? I'm betting it does. So, have you heard of capital letters?

ahh
you want reopen an old troll of yours.....

yair. who cars aboot corect speling and, punctuation: its just as ezy to red badly ritten stuf - and the mening is cler

damn, you are one irascible kid, aint ya?

well here is the thread....01-10-06, 09:48 AM

here are my sentiments...

"correct english usage" is a moving target. the language is not static. it evolves.a relevant example would be the excessive use of majuscules in older forms of english. if you were to be transposed to such a time, i would expect you to be defending that capitalization of say...every third word?

case in point...an attempt to modernize

Capitals should be used sparingly but consistently. When in doubt use lower case letters. Capitals should be used for eg King Henry VIII, the Duke of Newcastle, Sir John Byron, Newstead Priory, the White Hart, Broxtowe Hundred, the Poor Law Board, Anglo-Saxon, Cistercian Ware, Bronze Age, but not for ‘the king’ or for kings, dukes, etc in general. Note also ‘18th century’, ‘north Nottinghamshire’, and east Midlands’. link

i personally know lots of mutts that will capitalize words that reference the cardinal points. heh

now
a movement to eliminate majuscules in its entirety is not exactly illogical when presented in the context of an evolving language along with its apparent trends. it is even more so when it is obvious that punctuation renders it practically redundant. as for names.....my, are we not unique and special! dump em along with all forms of honorifics.

i'll see you there, james
bring along all the piety and superstition you can muster
i'll counter that with logic and reason

 

[Gustav]

What accusations?

could you please stop being dishonest? trolling like this does sci a great disservice. it is bad pr. please remember you an administrator

They are random in that they don't define eclecticism. They merely reflect Gustav's personal tastes. The thread title is self-serving and misleading.

that is your accusation. how many times are you going to make me quote that bit of idiocy?

They are random in that they don't define eclecticism. They merely reflect Gustav's personal tastes.

that is your proposition....subjectivity precludes eclecticism thus implying randomness

The thread title is self-serving and misleading.

that is your conclusion....i am being deceitful and disingenuous


justify your conclusions, validate your assumptions contained in your propositions. why is this so hard? do you not know that intellectual exercises like those are the entire point of this site? do you not know that we expect statements to be supported by a factual basis?

what are my personal tastes in music? why do you think they are not eclectic? what are the specific choices made in that thread that make the eclectic description inapplicable? present your criteria

why do i have to give you a lecture in the scientific method?
seriously james, stop trolling and please resolve your argument in a sane and rational manner

 

[James R]

From post #50, above:

The thread title assumes that sciforums was not already eclectic. It assumes that the great Gustav would make it so by starting a thread propounding his personal musical tastes. i.e. self-serving and misleading.

This is just my personal opinion, of course. Feel free to agree or disagree.

 

[Gustav]

ahh
an unapologetic troll desperately clinging to his irrational prejudices
very well, james, if that is what helps you sleep at night..........

/disappointed

 

[Gustav]

**************Note to the Community**************​

if you ever find yourself cornered by moderators wielding ban batons demanding substantiation of assertions, this would be the appropriate response...

This is just my personal opinion, of course. Feel free to agree or disagree.

please remember, life and liberty are at stake. yours to be exact...

 

[wynn]

please remember, life and liberty is at stake. yours to be exact...

... and then they will say "It's just an online forum, not real life!"

 

[Gustav]

... and then they will say "It's just an online forum, not real life!"

...while others mutter "it is just the matrix, not "real" life""

 

[wynn]

...while others mutter "it is just the matrix, not "real" life""

Ain't nothing like a good dissociation! :bawl: