Dark space is transparent ? is that a better way to put it?
It is always dark, Light is an illusion and not a thing!
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"If a room is filled with dirt and the whole volume of space is taken by the dirt, then the room will not allow light to pass through." - a case where dark is not transparent.
You are now arguing with yourself.
Transparent things are transparent because they allow light to pass through. Empty space is transparent. Dark empty space is transparent. Well lit empty space is transparent. Glass is transparent. Space filled with dirt is not transparent. Space filled with a opaque gas mixture is not transparent.
If you are noticing a theme here, then good for you! Transparent things allow light to pass through.
Dark is not a thing period! It is just the absence of everything else.
You Sir, are quite delusional in the extreme. A child could reason what I have said.
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According to you dark is massless and its not an EM wave (like light) so it's basically nothing.
You ask if we still exist when standing in a room when the light is turned off. Of course we still exist. We are still in the room whether it's light or dark. Darkness is just a state.
Yes you got it, dark empty space is transparent, darkness is a condition of space without light, darkness is transparent because darkness is a condition of space.
I never said there was never nothing in the darkness, there is space and maybe CBMR.
Correct!
Also correct.
Sort of. Darkness CAN be a condition of any space. Some spaces are quite well lit.
Also "If a room is filled with dirt and the whole volume of space is taken by the dirt, then the room will not allow light to pass through." That would be a case of a dark space that is not transparent.
Again, you're arguing with yourself here.
If a space is well lit then it is illuminated space and not dark, dark space is the absence of light in space, darkness is actually dark space. It is a thing a not a nothing.
So far we seem agreed that dark space, is transparent.
The next thing I am looking for agreement on, is that dark space can not be seen through.
No to the contradict bit, if you fill space with matter then light can not pass through that space, you have occupied that space with dust.
If you use glass then you've STILL filled space with matter.
But this time it's not dark.
Because the glass is transparent as well has the dark space.
I did realise I put the has and as the wrong way, but I did not want to keep editing because that can get a person banned it messes with their forum software.
So at last we have a starting point on agreement,
so can we agree that dark space is not see through by sight?
You're talking bollocks again.
The fact that it's dark means - by definition - that there's no light.
Therefore we can't see at all.
Then you "realised" wrong. They weren't the "wrong way - you got one right and one wrong.
Sounds like you're making this up.
Citation needed.
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TC, imagine a room empty except for a desk in the middle of the room.
Whether the room is lit or not the deck is still there. When there is light (visible portion of EM wave) you can see the desk.
When you take away this EM wave you can't see the desk.
Dark isn't any thing. You insist that dark is a thing that actually exists. So, describe this thing. What is it?
You've said it doesn't have mass (like light). So, is it a wave (like light)?
Whether the room is lit or not the deck is still there. When there is light (visible portion of EM wave) you can see the desk.
When you take away this EM wave you can't see the desk.
Dark isn't any thing. You insist that dark is a thing that actually exists. So, describe this thing. What is it?
You've said it doesn't have mass (like light). So, is it a wave (like light)?
Correct! Because the space is now opaque. It is dark _and_ opaque. If you filled it with air it would be transparent. This transparent space can be light or dark, even though it is filled with matter.
In your language "opaque space is not see through by sight. Transparent space is see through by sight."
Dark is dark space, dark space can exist even in the light, consider shadows, that is darkened space, consider a closed box in the light, inside the box is dark space.
Dark is the natural state of the Universe that is under the light, science perceives the wrong thing, they perceive the Universe to be light, when the Universe is dark space that has light in it.
Is it a wave ? undecided at this time.
Yes exactly, I think you might be understanding, opaque space, change that to dark space is not see through to sight, and illuminated dark space is see through to sight.
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