Tell that to the friends and relatives of the deceased homosexuals. It doesn’t matter if murder by Christians is sanctioned by the state, because the victims are still dead. It’s illegal to lynch people, but that didn’t stop Christians over the last century from doing that either.
If you bothered to read my posts you’d notice that I’ve already acknowledged that.
Everybody I know is aware that there are Muslim governments that are intolerant of homosexuality. Now tell me something else I already know.
It is hardly possible to "hide behind" the fact that Islamic law still has the punishment of death for homosexuals. There are hundreds of Islamic sources, that promote the death sentance for homsexuality. And just let me remind you: I didn't bring the subject of the and homsexuality into this thread. It was in response to a comment above. see post 20
But you sure do have a hard on for it.
"Intolerant"!? It carries the DEATH PENALTY!!! in Islamic law.
No. I have just been responding to those that " do have a hard on for it". Islam seems to have a "hard on" for killing gays. They think it right, justified, and humane and see it as " putting them out of their misery".
I couldn't agree more . And seeing it was you who brought "intolerance" into the mix; I can tell you, Islam is the most intolerant of all religions. It spouts that "there is no compulsion in Islam" on the one hand, then calls for the death of Apostates and all pagans, Jews, Christians " until all religion is for Allah", on the other. And there are lovely intolerant instructions from Allah such as;
It's a fair point, and as far as Islam is concerned it has to make the changes, and bring itself into the 21st century. But Islam has a big problem. It cannot be reformed. According to muslims, the Quran is the last, final and unalterable & perfect word of Allah( god), so why alter it? Or why does it need altering?. So it couldn't be reformed without conflict particularly amongst muslims themselves. And to suggest "banning" any religion is a dead duck, because even if religion/s were banned, it would only drive them underground and there is the fact we in the West of course have the right of "religious freedom".
Absolutely no reason for that. And I did say this great question does deserve a thread all of its own.
I have said, THE solution can only come from Islam itself. And I have also explained to you the muslim dilemma.
You could've just gotten to the point pages ago and spared us all the alarmist spam.
Essentially any reform involves conversion of ideals, which is what will happen one way or another.
I guess you missed the link in the previous post.
I have taken that to mean the problem of Islam and not just muslim homosexuality. I have responded. "The change needs to come from Islam itself," how many more times?
Or homosexual Muslims need to escape their oppressive conditions by receiving a free plane ticket to their new homeland in Montana. Just think of it, a homosexual Muslim state in the middle of North America.
