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Are these Bible quotes true? I seen this on another site and found it ninteresting.:

There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor
(Jonah 2:5-6).

Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.
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Oceans contain springs (Job 38:16).

The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!
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The earth free-floats in space (Job 26:7), affected only by gravity. While other sources declared the earth sat on the back of an elephant or turtle, or was held up by Atlas, the Bible alone states what we now know to be true – “He hangs the earth on nothing.”
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I am assuming the quotes are accurate, i will check on them but like i said they are probably in there.

Were these things written similarly in other texts from the period. The last one seems to imply a spherical object floating in space...that sounds like the Earth.:rolleyes:
 
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Oh geez what have you been looking at scientific miracles of the quran and thought about doing the same with the bible :rolleyes: Just look up the debunking of the quran miracles the same applies here.
 
John99 said:
Are these Bible quotes true? I seen this on another site and found it ninteresting.:
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By 'interesting', you mean being a bible thumper, you are one step away from yelling "HALLYLUJA!"

They may be quite close to being true, but clearly a guess and not divinely revealed. Another Bible quote suggests that the Earth is unmovable and fixed which is clearly that is not true.

Several bible quotes suggest the Earth is flat:

"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)

A sphere has no edges :D

"[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"
(Matthew 4:1-12)

On a round Earth you can not see all the kingdoms of the world. :D
 
None of this matters to atheists, you see using an atheistic tactic no matter what atheists can just say "yeah well so what, its just a lucky guess, anyone could've randomly guessed these things to be true, it doesn't mean anything", they do this in order to preserve the atheistic faith, atheism is unfalsifiable, just like any other faith-based belief system or religion

There's no convincing an atheist, they've already firmly made up their minds to never believe
 
VitalOne said:
None of this matters to atheists, you see using an atheistic tactic no matter what atheists can just say "yeah well so what, its just a lucky guess, anyone could've randomly guessed these things to be true, it doesn't mean anything", they do this in order to preserve the atheistic faith, atheism is unfalsifiable, just like any other faith-based belief system or religion

There's no convincing an atheist, they've already firmly made up their minds to never believe
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What you have to realize, is that certain matters of nature could yield what appears to be an accurate guess. This is not just confined to scripture, but also secular science and philosophy. But in these matters, accurate guesses are in a minority. To see this, just look at how many claims the Bible makes about the physical universe which we can now state as being wrong guesses. It's not the fault of the writers... science also makes lots of guesses, but works to prove each guess wrong to get closer to the truth.

What really would impress me would be if the Bible went into any detail which would then rule out 'lucky guesses'. For example, Greek philosophers hinted at the existence of atom-like particles, but they could never guess it's finer qualities which is where science came in. Same goes for the Bible when it has never made precise claims that have been later validated.
 
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Oh geez what have you been looking at scientific miracles of the quran and thought about doing the same with the bible :rolleyes: Just look up the debunking of the quran miracles the same applies here.
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Incorrect. I actually know these already. They are true, and proves that the Bible is actually scientifically correct.
 
KennyJC said:
By 'interesting', you mean being a bible thumper, you are one step away from yelling "HALLYLUJA!"

They may be quite close to being true, but clearly a guess and not divinely revealed. Another Bible quote suggests that the Earth is unmovable and fixed which is clearly that is not true.

Several bible quotes suggest the Earth is flat:

"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)

A sphere has no edges :D

"[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"
(Matthew 4:1-12)

On a round Earth you can not see all the kingdoms of the world. :D
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Clutching at straws my friend. The Bible says the Earth is round...

''They may be quite close to being true, but clearly a guess and not divinely revealed. Another Bible quote suggests that the Earth is unmovable and fixed which is clearly that is not true.''

Yes but in relativity, it don't matter how big you are. Everything is frozen in time.
 
Reiku said:
Clutching at straws my friend. The Bible says the Earth is round...
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Well the quotes I posted are certainly not from people who believed the Earth to be round. But enlighten me to where the Bible states the Earth is round anyway.



Yes but in relativity, it don't matter how big you are. Everything is frozen in time.
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Riiiight...
 
Isaiah 40:22
''He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, andits peoples are but mere grasshoppers.''
 
For instance, in the case of Isaiah 40:22, what actually appears in the Bible is this: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." Whether or not Morris and Clark are aware of it, a circle is in no way equivalent to a sphere: a sphere is a three-dimensional object, whereas a circle is a two-dimensional shape. It was to the latter, of course, that ancient humans believed the earth to be analogous. That is, they thought it a flat, circular slice of land over the edges of which flowed the seas and over which, in the "Heaven of Heavens," resided the Creator of the world. Furthermore, it seems quite likely that Isaiah is here actually referring to the ancient Hebrew concept of the universe, of which his "canopy" simile seems denotative. It was that concept, in fact, which envisioned the firmament as being comparable to a vast dome, the heighest point of which (at the end of the so-called "Gate of Heaven") was occupied by God, far above the clouds and stars.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/steven_conifer/fundamentalism.html
 
:) It will be geometrically 3-D...I really don't think the writers thought on two dimensional plains when considering the earth.
 
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