Is it wrong to have sex for fun, knowing it might possibly lead to an abortion?

[billvon]

Evolution degrades the glory of the human race making it equal to an animal.

Evolution is a beautiful process, which elegantly describes how our current life came to be. I feel sorry for the people whose political agendas keep them ignorant of it.

The more women there are, the better the human reproduction system will function.

Sounds like an argument for less women, so we stop overpopulating the world and destroying its ecosystems.

However, I prefer to educate women (educate everyone, actually, but especially women.) That has been proven to significantly reduce birthrates.

Training women to kill their own babies in their own womb, by lying to them about what is inside them, is within Stage 1 of the population control agenda (Eugenics).

No. Eugenics is manipulation of genomes to arrive at a more 'desirable' phenotype through selective breeding. Since abortion is available to all, it's not eugenics by definition*. One of the few good things about abortion is its reduction of the overall birthrate, which leads to less damage to the world's ecosystems, and less stress put on the planet as a whole.

(* - you could argue that new laws that attempt to prevent abortion target low-income women with low educational levels. So to that extent, new abortion laws are a form of eugenics - it selects for poverty and ignorance. Congratulations on the beginnings of your eugenics program!)

 

[parmalee]

Evolution degrades the glory of the human race making it equal to an animal.

Fuck you. The human race is "equal to animal" because humans are animals, you fucking imbecile. Of course, were one to judge species based upon the cumulative actions of their respective members, humans would certainly be lesser because of human garbage like yourself.

 

[Write4U]

SetiAlpha6 said: ↑
Evolution degrades the glory of the human race making it equal to an animal.

Our friend never did accept the fact that man and ape had a common ancestor. Isn't that precious.
And to think these are the people we have to deal with on an every day basis. Scary!

 

[SetiAlpha6]

You are just a clump of cells.

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

 

[parmalee]

You are just a clump of cells.

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

In your case, absolutely!

 

[sideshowbob]

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

If you consider that equivalent to abortion, I presume you advocate murder charges for women who have abortions.

 

[Write4U]

You are just a clump of cells.

You are 90% bacterial cell. It's a good thing they are symbiotic.

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

She has a right to kick you out of her house if you don't contribute to the family.

Weaning offspring for self sufficiency is a part of child rearing.

 

[billvon]

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

If you were admitted to a hospital for a minor injury, would it be OK for them to sedate you and take a kidney, lung and liver lobe to save three other people?

 

[James R]

I presume you advocate murder charges for women who have abortions.

That's a good point. He does refer to abortion as "murder". It follows that the legal penalties, in SetiAlpha6's world, ought to be the same as those imposed for any other murder.

Is this correct, SetiAlpha6? All women who choose abortion ought to be locked up for 25 years to life - or perhaps suffer the death penalty themselves?

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Our friend never did accept the fact that man and ape had a common ancestor. Isn't that precious.
And to think these are the people we have to deal with on an every day basis. Scary!

The Ego has been bastardized by the ID and the ID runs a muck as the intellectual superior moral-justification

Is this correct, SetiAlpha6? All women who choose abortion ought to be locked up for 25 years to life - or perhaps suffer the death penalty themselves?

you forget yourself !
women in setialpha6s' world are second class citizens that play subordinate to the male superiority which is gods law
they are born as a victim and must be pandered to as weaker and the eternal victim of man.

 

[Seattle]

Evolution is a beautiful process, which elegantly describes how our current life came to be. I feel sorry for the people whose political agendas keep them ignorant of it.

Sounds like an argument for less women, so we stop overpopulating the world and destroying its ecosystems.

However, I prefer to educate women (educate everyone, actually, but especially women.) That has been proven to significantly reduce birthrates.

No. Eugenics is manipulation of genomes to arrive at a more 'desirable' phenotype through selective breeding. Since abortion is available to all, it's not eugenics by definition*. One of the few good things about abortion is its reduction of the overall birthrate, which leads to less damage to the world's ecosystems, and less stress put on the planet as a whole.

(* - you could argue that new laws that attempt to prevent abortion target low-income women with low educational levels. So to that extent, new abortion laws are a form of eugenics - it selects for poverty and ignorance. Congratulations on the beginnings of your eugenics program!)

I agree with your points and I'm pro-choice but your last point could be argued as "pro-eugenics" either way. More abortions, less low income babies to try to wipe out a certain class. Less abortions, more low income babies to help keep the poor poorer.

 

[Seattle]

You are just a clump of cells.

Should your mother be allowed to hire someone to kill you in your thirties, because you are living in her house, eating her food, and you are an inconvenience to her?

In your case, it does give one food for thought.

 

[Write4U]

In your case, it does give one food for thought.

In Reality it is one of the greatest dilemmas that faces mankind....

There is a single fundamental universal function which inevitably comes into play in the course of continual steady growth (and especially in a confined area), the Exponential Function.

This growth potential is so powerful that unlimited growth in a limited environment is impossible to achieve.

This natural growth function literally dictates the death rate when a saturation point is exceeded.

 

[Seattle]

In Reality it is one of the greatest dilemmas that faces mankind....

There is a single fundamental universal function which inevitably comes into play in the course of continual steady growth (and especially in a confined area), the Exponential Function.

This growth potential is so powerful that unlimited growth in a limited environment is impossible to achieve.

This natural growth function literally dictates the death rate when a saturation point is exceeded.

Seti doesn't have a problem with the death rate in general, only before birth.

 

[SetiAlpha6]

If you consider that equivalent to abortion, I presume you advocate murder charges for women who have abortions.

The penalty could be the same as for the mother who kills her own baby one week after birth and throws her in a dumpster.

They are equivalent!

In both cases the mother is equally depraved and premeditates the murder of her own innocent daughter.

 

[wegs]

Again, no mention of men’s responsibility in all this. As if women “end up” pregnant all on their own.

This thread is a sad reminder that patriarchy isn’t going away anytime soon, maybe it never will.

 

[SetiAlpha6]

Women deserve better than abortion!

No mother should have to kill her own child to be successful in her career or life.

Abortion hurts the woman and kills her own child.

Society has failed women, and you all have as well!

 

[James R]

SetiAlpha6:

Take the example of a 6 week old foetus in the womb and a baby six weeks after birth. Do you equate the killing of the foetus to the killing of the child? That is, are you telling us that you regard both killings as equivalent murders that ought to be punished to the same extent by any just law?

Let us say that a mother would get 15 years in jail for deliberately killing her baby six weeks after birth. Do you advocate that mothers who kill their unborn 6-week old foetuses should also be put in jail for 15 years?

Also, do you consider the two women in question "equally depraved"?

Just so we're clear about where you stand on this.

 

[billvon]

The penalty could be the same as for the mother who kills her own baby one week after birth and throws her in a dumpster.
They are equivalent!
In both cases the mother is equally depraved and premeditates the murder of her own innocent daughter.

You keep saying that. I think you are a hypocrite.

If you were admitted to a hospital for a minor injury, would it be OK for them to sedate you and take a kidney, lung and liver lobe to save three other people?

 

[sideshowbob]

The penalty could be the same as for the mother who kills her own baby one week after birth and throws her in a dumpster.

They are equivalent!

In both cases the mother is equally depraved and premeditates the murder of her own innocent daughter.

At least you're honest. Fortunately, some anti-abortionists have a heart.

By the way, have you done the math? With millions of abortions every year, won't that cause a lot of overcrowding on Death Row?