Is it possible to believe strongly in something without action?

[ThazzarBaal]

You are mixing two things here:
1. the act of believing
2. action as a result of the belief

Looking at 1... if the question of this thread is intended to be trivial, then if we presume that believing is itself an action then the question reduces to the question-begging "Is it possible to perform an action without action?"

Rather, the question, assuming that the trivial was not the intention, assumes that we are considering "without action" in the question to be "without action as a result of the belief".
In this regard, I believe action stems from a belief not due to the strength of the belief but the relevance of the belief when it comes to choosing how to act.
I could strongly believe that you are wearing a red hat today, but so what if you are, or if you aren't?

I don't wear hats.

 

[ThazzarBaal]

You are mixing two things here:
1. the act of believing
2. action as a result of the belief

Looking at 1... if the question of this thread is intended to be trivial, then if we presume that believing is itself an action then the question reduces to the question-begging "Is it possible to perform an action without action?"

Rather, the question, assuming that the trivial was not the intention, assumes that we are considering "without action" in the question to be "without action as a result of the belief".
In this regard, I believe action stems from a belief not due to the strength of the belief but the relevance of the belief when it comes to choosing how to act.
I could strongly believe that you are wearing a red hat today, but so what if you are, or if you aren't?

Despite my no hat wearing preferences, the intent was to simply suggest that thought is action. Belief falls into the thought category, by the way. To be perfectly honest, I asked the question as a direct result of reading another thread that asked a series of questions ... I'm fairly certain in this particular board.

I forget the exact question, but it seemed important enough to clarify a little on at least one of them, and important enough to be asked in the first place.

You received my answer. The other thread was closed to further comments.

Edit: I found the question

Q - 6. Strong belief, even without action, can change reality.

A series of multiple choice answers followed the questions.

Yes, err ... I mean: I strongly agree except there is no belief without action, so I strongly disagree, except the question borders on meaningless given the facts, which is why I started this thread...for clarification

 

[ThazzarBaal]

I believe action stems from a belief not due to the strength of the belief but the relevance of the belief when it comes to choosing how to act.
I could strongly believe that you are wearing a red hat today, but so what if you are, or if you aren't?

I will disagree, due to the irrelevencies associated with non affected populations, those who are unaware of some of the mechanics involved in individualistic thought, namely personal beliefs. At least as they pertain to this specific thread. Red hats, schizophrenia, bigfoot, etc. all have something in common.

 

[Baldeee]

Despite my no hat wearing preferences, the intent was to simply suggest that thought is action. Belief falls into the thought category, by the way.

So the question lends itself to the trivial.
Fair enough.
I guess the thread has served its purpose, then.

 

[ThazzarBaal]

So the question lends itself to the trivial.
Fair enough.
I guess the thread has served its purpose, then.

Is it so trivial? Contemplative to be certain, and perhaps trivial, but ... I'm thinking or rather I believe contemplative might be the better term.

I'm contemplating on their usage, trivial or not.

I enjoyed the exercise no matter, whichever you may deem to be the better term. You believe me, correct?

 

[ThazzarBaal]

I would make comment about autocorrect correctness, but it might be a futile comment, so I'll just state the stated. I had to correct something via edit feature. My apologies.

 

[ThazzarBaal]

Anyway, contemplating the corresponding comments, I'm thinking that belief can infact change the world, even without conscious action of acting according to said beliefs, whatever they may be.

 

[gmilam]

So it's settled, thoughts and prayers can stop mass shootings.

 

[ThazzarBaal]

So it's settled, thoughts and prayers can stop mass shootings.

Maybe ... I don't know. What I do know is thoughts change things in the world, and sometimes without much conscious awareness of how beliefs affect the changes themselves. Maybe the belief that someone wears red hats triggers some people. Then again, if that's true for red hats, I'm fairly sure it's true for blue ones also. There may or may not be direct relevance to that particular belief. I don't typically wear hats. I wouldn't know.

 

[Baldeee]

Is it so trivial?

Yes.
It really is.
You have defined believing as being, or at least involving, an action.
You then ask whether it is possible to believe (strongly) without action.
Or, to put it another way, whether it is possible to do an action without doing an action.
Trivial.

Contemplative to be certain, and perhaps trivial, but ... I'm thinking or rather I believe contemplative might be the better term.

I'm contemplating on their usage, trivial or not.

One can contemplate on the trivial, for sure, if that is what you want to do.
Does't stop it being trivial.

I enjoyed the exercise no matter, whichever you may deem to be the better term.

Great.

You believe me, correct?

Does it matter?

 

[Tiassa]

Question: Is it possible to believe strongly in something without action?

It would seem to me that belief is an action in and of itself.

What do you think?

I think you're blending or confusing two definitions of action.

 

[ThazzarBaal]

Question 6: Strong belief even without action can change reality.

I strongly agree, given the fact that thought is action.