Is it me or is this site in its death throes?

Is it really so inconceivable that people regularly mistake the planet Venus for an alien spaceship? I think not. They see the planet just fine, but their interpretation of what they see is simply wrong. Their mind filled in the gap in their knowledge and made a mistake, so they ended up with a constructed memory of something that was never there.

I see. So they SEE the planet Venus, but then later forget it was the planet Venus, and then fake remember seeing a flying saucer instead? Yeah..I'm sure THAT happens all the time. :rolleyes:
 
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While you're strutting around waving the Rules banner, stop to read these too:

Netiquette
  • Abide by basic standards of good manners and courtesy. Remember the human who is reading your post.
  • Do not insult or harass other members.
  • Avoid engaging with members with whom you have a personality clash.
  • Beware of the potential for discussions to become heated - particularly religious and political discussions.
  • Do not flame other members.
  • Do not engage in ad hominem attacks (i.e. attack the argument, not the person).
These are rules you should be abiding by. What a shame you do not!

Ring a bell? "Personification of evil?" Really?
You are the one boasting about a system that is currently seeing what can be literally thousands of people convicted and jailed for crimes they did not commit, all because you wish to claim that eyewitnesses are reliable. Not me. What would you call someone who claims that something that causes such unfair suffering to so many as being great because they stand to personally gain from it, MR?

Every hellfire sermon you preach about the rules here is undone by your consistent failure to abide by these simple ones. Physician heal thyself.
And I am still waiting for you to provide some studies that support your claims that eyewitness testimony is reliable.

How many pages has it been now and you are yet to do so?

And can you please explain why you quoted Billvon so much out of context and left out the part where you actually have to abide by the same rules that the rest of us do?

Thanks!
 
I see. So they SEE the planet Venus, but then later forget it was the planet Venus, and then fake remember seeing a flying saucer instead? Yeah..I'm sure THAT happens all the time. :rolleyes:

Continued dishonest trolling - you know damn well what was meant... why are you incapable of debating honestly?
 
Continued dishonest trolling - you know damn well what was meant... why are you incapable of debating honestly?

It's getting MR Vs Mods, why? Why can't Mods go silent after infracting him twice?

On a blind internet forums, it's very difficult to make people fall in line, and honestly speaking I do not think Kittamaru at least has that kind of image here that MR would pay heed to her.
 
It's getting MR Vs Mods, why? Why can't Mods go silent after infracting him twice?

On a blind internet forums, it's very difficult to make people fall in line, and honestly speaking I do not think Kittamaru at least has that kind of image here that MR would pay heed to her.

The issue is MR has been spoken to by two (or more) moderators, and an Administrator... all giving him the same instruction to follow the rules he agreed to abide to when he signed up here. Thus far, he has simply refused to do so.

It isn't MR vs Mods - it is MR vs Rules (and, apparently, intellectual honesty)

Why are you suggesting we should 'go silent' after infracting him? Should we just shrug and go "oh, well, I guess he should be exempt from the rules" because reasons?

Also... just a heads up but uhm, I'm not a her... (I'm not sure why the avatar defaulted to that symbol, if that was the cause of confusion).
 
Oooo...cutting and pasting in other forums! Burn me at the stake!
It was an example of how your Cut & Paste posts are really pulling in the punters there.
278 posts and counting. Plasma Inferno would be quite proud. The owners see what is happening.
Your right, the owners see...Where there's muck there's brass.
Ps. If you want to keep Dumbest man on side, stop using the emoji.
...although, there is no need for the puerile "Emoji"...I find the use of them...childish, at best..
Needless, useless and unwarranted cursing/cussing along with another Childish "Emoji"...
 
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It's getting MR Vs Mods, why? Why can't Mods go silent after infracting him twice?

On a blind internet forums, it's very difficult to make people fall in line, and honestly speaking I do not think Kittamaru at least has that kind of image here that MR would pay heed to her.

Actually I was infracted 3 times and banned 1 day for nothing since this thread was active. That's the sort of abuse of power we are dealing with here. I'm still waiting for James R to reply to me on this. It appears he's not going to. He has little interest in standing up for what's right in this forum. For the record, I haven't violated any rule at all here, as I already made clear. They're just all upset they lost another argument. It's really quite childish and petty. But all the forum can see it now. I'm glad they have exposed themselves finally.
 
Actually I was infracted 3 times and banned 1 day for nothing since this thread was active. That's the sort of abuse of power we are dealing with here. I'm still waiting for James R to reply to me on this. It appears he's not going to. He has little interest in standing up for what's right in this forum. For the record, I haven't violated any rule at all here, as I already made clear. They're just all upset they lost another argument. It's really quite childish and petty. But all the forum can see it now. I'm glad they have exposed themselves finally.

You are, once again, lying through your teeth. The rules you have violated have not only been cited for you (and all) to see, but the method of your violation has been spelled out for you. We, literally, could not make this any clearer for you if we tried.

As for "losing an argument", you haven't even made an argument - you made a claim (unsupported at that) and simply repeated it over and over, despite repeated calls for evidence.

The only thing exposed is your own dishonest, and frankly appalling, behavior. The fact that you are yet again playing the "woe is me I'm an innocent victim" card is, admittedly, almost funny.
 
You are the one boasting about a system that is currently seeing what can be literally thousands of people convicted and jailed for crimes they did not commit, all because you wish to claim that eyewitnesses are reliable. Not me. What would you call someone who claims that something that causes such unfair suffering to so many as being great because they stand to personally gain from it, MR?

You are the one bashing a justice system that works very well in convicting thousands of criminals everyday, only a tiny fraction of which are later proven to be innocent. If there's any moral failing here, it's your's. You have so little regard for the efforts of our officers and prosecuters and justices to protect our society from the scum that victimizes people everyday. Why is that? Don't you care about the victims of crime? Don't you care about winning justice for them against pathetic abusers, murderers, child molesters, and rapists. Seeing you were once a victim of such a crime, I would think you'd be on the victim's side by now,
 
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You are the one bashing a justice system that works very well in convicting thousands of criminals everyday, only a tiny fraction of which are later proven to be innocent. If there's any moral failing here, it's your's. You have so little regard for the efforts of our officers and justices to protect our society from the scum that victimizes people everyday. Why is that? Don't you care about the victims of crime? Don't you care about winning justice for them against pathetic abusers, murderers, child molesters, and rapists. Seeing you were a victim of such a crime, I would think you'd be on the victim's side by now,

Said system that also incarcerates tens of thousands of people who did nothing more "dangerous" than inhaling the burnt smoke of a perfectly safe leaf... no violence, no theft, nothing. The same system that routinely rules in favor of the mother in child custody battles, even when the kids are desperately wanting to stay with the father because of abuse. The same system that allows tens of thousands of people to be evicted from their homes after predatory mortgages have sucked them dry.

Yes, I believe Bells is bashing a "justice" system that is that corrupt - as do I. It has nothing to do with regard for the officers and justices that are doing their jobs, and everything to do with facts.

Get yours straight and you might make a coherent point.
 
It was an example of how your Cut & Paste posts are really pulling in the punters there.
Your right, the owners see...Where there's muck there's brass.
Ps. If you want to keep Dumbest man on side, stop using the emoji.

You sure like digging up posts from other members and posting them don't you? Don't you have a life?
 
News coming in of a bank raid in Washington DC, eyewitnesses say the get-a-way ufo was 'flown' by a little green man with what appeared to be two antenna coming from his head. Police are seeking more eyewitnesses.
Don't you have a life?
Says the person who just Cuts & Pastes, Cuts & Pastes.
 
I thought it was more about UFO sightings.

That's what they always try to make it about. Every thread I post in they try and relitigate the ufo issue, which was in fact settled in threads long ago. In this case they were throwing out human perception and memory just so they can dismiss the thousands of eyewitness accounts of ufos out there. James R even says people manufacture fake memories of seeing flying saucers. lol! That's how ludicrous this has become.
 
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That's what they always try to make it about. Every thread I post in they try and relitigate the ufo issue, which was in fact settled in threads long ago. In this case they were throwing out human perception and memory just so they can dismiss the thousands of eyewitness accounts of ufos out there. James R even says people manufacture fake memories of seeing flying saucers. lol! That's how ludicrous this has become.

What's ludicrous is that, despite being handed piles of evidence about this very issue, you continue to hand-wave the evidence away in favor of your imagined fantasy-scape...
 
Once again, you keep attributing things to me that I have never actually said.

Can you show me a specific example of where I've attributed anything to you that you never actually said?

I remember you making that same accusation against me in post #144 on page 8 of this thread. The ironic part is that your very next sentence confirmed what I'd written.

Can you please explain to me, and provide links of where I, and Kitta for that matter, have argued that "eyewitness testimony is bullshit by its nature"?

The issue with eyewitness testimony is that it is more often than not, wholly unreliable.

If eyewitness testimony is in most instances, entirely unreliable, then eyewitness testimony would seem to generally speaking be bullshit by its nature.

I think that attack on the epistemic value of personal experience is hugely overstated. If it was true it would contradict not only the evidence of everyday life, but also totally subvert scientific empiricism rendering science impossible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism

If your point is merely that eyewitness testimony needn't always be accepted with total credulity and isn't always 100% true, then you need to walk your remarks back by qualifying them. (I fully agree with that more reasonable qualified version and have argued for it repeatedly in many threads.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallibilism

Once again, you are proving just how unreliable eyewitnesses can be, because you are applying your own interpretation to what I have said and turned it into something else entirely.

Ok, then this is a good opportunity to better clarify what the point regarding personal experience is intended to be. Are we supposed to reject people's reports of things they experienced merely because it is eyewitness testimony, or is there a more plausible epistemic point hidden in there?
 
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