Is islam really the fastest growing religion?

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Militant wiseguy
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Islam the fastest disintegrating religion in the world

This is a statistic from a muslim source about what is happening in Africa alone
As for how this happened, Africa has now a million and half a million churches. The number of the members of these churches 46 million people. Because of the christian missionaries every hour islam loses 667 muslims convert to Christianity, every Day 16000 , every year 6 MILLION."

the original is here and in arabic

islam losing ground

......and unIslamic cultural influences have corrupted almost all the young people in every Muslim country.

What kind of world are we coming into? Even though millions of people convert to Islam every year, millions more, from the Muslim world, are lulled into secularism and become opponents of things related to Islam. Sometimes I almost feel that it seems like a few Westerners are becoming Muslims while most "Muslims" are becoming kaffirs. ....

.... The children of converts most often go back to being the non-Muslims their parents were before converting! (I've taught for ten years the children of "born Muslims" and converts and can attest to this fact.) ...


Linky Islamic ed foundation

So all these conversion stories don't really give any indication of the # of muslims. As we know everyone whose family was muslim at one time is counted as being muslim unless they publicly come out and apostacize, not a wise move in most of the muslim world
 
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Apparently in Algeria more and more people are turning away from islam in reaction to the terror that the islamists have perpetrated in allahs name. Many of these people are Karbilya of whom there are around 1 million in France all of whom muslims count as french muslims, are they really.

"Christianity Is Life"

The Islamist campaign of violence in Algeria has turned some Muslims, especially Berbers, away from Islam and toward Christianity, reports the Algiers daily Al-Yawm in late December 2000, as reprinted in Courrier International, January 4-10, 2001, p. 29. The following extracts are translated from the French.

In Kabylie, people of all ages are converting to Christianity. ....

The deterioration of the image of Islam during the crisis has played its part in this rise of conversions to Christianity and the adoption of its principles. What is happening and what has happened in Algeria, such as the massacres and killings in the name of Islam,1 has [sic] led many, when asked what the difference, in their view, was between Islam and Christianity, to declare: "Christianity is life, Islam is death."
That actually fits in perfectly with al quidas tried and true saying "they love life while we love death"

from hereconverting

I've got a feeling that the global terror al-quida is unleashing to spread islam will end up being, if not the last then one of the last nails in the coffin of islam
 
Re: BATH ! :p

IN YOUR FACE [deleted]:

Islamic Britain lures top people
Sunday Times 22 February 2004
MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/649424.asp

-'' Indeed, Islam is the world's fastest growing religion in the world'' The Economist, London Sept 2003

-BBC: Thousands of Asutralia's Aboriginals are converting to Islam:
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2902315.stm

-Islam is spreading so fast in Mexico:

http://www.finalcall.com/international/mexico07-02-2002.htm

http://www.racematters.org/islamtakesrootinmexico.htm

- EVEN IN HAWAII, MORE AND MORE ARE CONVERTING TO ISLAM:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2001/Nov/11/ln/ln06a.html

-In South Africa, so many blacks are converting to Islam:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0110/p13s1-woaf.html

-Thousands in Rawanda-Africa are converting to Islam every year:

http://www.xamarcadde.com/rawanda.html

- Hindus in india are converting to Islam in their masses:

http://www.milligazette.com/Archive.../0111200275.htm

- Islam is back to Spain after 500 years:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1002/p07s01-woeu.html

- More and more americans are converting to Islam specially after 9/11:

http://www.yorknewstimes.com/stories/042702/neb_0427020012.shtml

- NEW YORK TIMES: ISLAM ATTRACT THOUSANDS DRAWN BEFORE AND AFTER 9/11:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30D13FA345A0C718EDDA90994D9404482

- The Canadian Globe and Mail: Islam is now the fastest growing religion in Canada:
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030514/UCENSN/TPFront/TopStories

Islam: The Next American Religion?

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/69/story_6982.html

Catholic World News: Exhilarating Time To Be Christian," But Islam Grows Faster

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=16311

U.S. Department of State for International Information programes: Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in America:

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/muslimlife/

Muslims outpace Anglicans in UK

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/444572.cms

A Spanish bridge to Islam:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1002/p07s01-woeu.html

Britain Elites are converting to Islam:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/03/286384.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096872/posts

http://www.lightuponlight.com/islam...ws&new_topic=14

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/artic...erahIslam.shtml

-Islam is also spreading in Ukraine:

http://www.crimeatau.org.ua/project/islam/itriu.html

PS: Haters, Islamophobes and LIARS, watch out !! Muslims are coming !! :p
 
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Jihaad against the spread of apostasy
M. H. Jamaldeen (Australia)

In order to cry halt to the spread of Irtidaad among Muslims and save them from the jaws of spiritual death here and impending infernal doom in the Hereafter, the Mujlisul Ulama of South Africa has embarked on the noble and highly commendable campaign of Jihaad against apostasy among the ignorant, poor and unwary Muslims in many parts of the world.

Evidently so many people are going apostate in south africa that they had to declare jihad against it. Slow loading link here

http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/apostasy.html
 
Well, to be nitpicky ...

How would you know that Islam is the fastEST disintegrating religion in the world? You would need to find statistics for nearly every religion in the world to be able to claim that. Who knows, there might be small-scale local religions that are dying out, or maybe one of the other major religions might be quietly losing followers.

Comparison of numbers needed before upgrading the status of this thread above 'Rambling'.
 
Proud_Muslim said:
IN YOUR FACE LOSER:

Islamic Britain lures top people
Sunday Times 22 February 2004
MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

And just who are these 14,000 white Britons, does anyone know?

Proud Muslim said these were the elite.... Who are they Proud?
 
Vienna said:
And just who are these 14,000 white Britons, does anyone know?

Proud Muslim said these were the elite.... Who are they Proud?

Elite damn you elite! just trust him.
 
Maybe they all took a national exam and these were the top 14,000? Who knows? Or maybe it's a convenient term without any objective standard that can be tossed around at one's convenience like a sack of stinky socks.

:eek:
 
Proud_Muslim said:
IN YOUR FACE LOSER:
...
MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.
yes folks, he is for real!
he's also a senior economist (i.e. the more educated ..'winner', i suppose)... imagine that
 
lol, there is a very easy pattern to see
in Christian countries, Islam is gaining influence
in Muslim countries, Islam is losing influence
its probably not gaining or losing many members, its just that all countries are becoming more multicultural
 
Could it be the numbers are simply a reflection of Muslims leaving those states controlled by Muslim fundamentalists and are moving to free countries?
 
Almost non-stop, people repeat the phrase "islam is the fastest growing religion" in the world, in the US, in the West, etc...
I have found sites that refute that declaration; by pagans, Christians, ex-muslims, etc...
Here is one, that includes a link to an arabic site on "al-Jazeera"

From:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm

Hitler said if a lie is repeated often enough and long enough, it would come to be perceived as truth. One such lie often repeated is “Islam is the fastest growing religion”.

Despite the fact that Muslims by virtue of being poor and uneducated are much more reproductive than others, Islam as a religion is not growing but dying fast.

More and more Muslims are discovering that the violence evinced by some of their coreligionists is not an aberration but is inspired by the teachings of the Quran and the examples set by its author. Muslims are becoming disillusioned with Islam.

Every day thousands of Muslim intellectuals are leaving Islam. They find Islam inconsistent with science, logics, human rights and ethics. Millions of Iranians already have left Islam. The enlightened Muslims of other nationalities are not far behind. This is the beginning of a mass exodus from Islam. It is a movement that is already in motion and nothing can stop it.

However the exodus from Islam is not reserved to the intellectuals but also the average Muslims are finding that Islam is not the way to God but to ignorance, poverty and wars. They are leaving Islam to embrace other religions especially the Christianity.

Perhaps it is best to listen to the truth coming from the mouth of the horse. The Internet site aljazeera.net published an interview with Ahmad Al Qataani أحمد القطعاني An important Islamic cleric who said: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity."

From an interview on:
http://www.aljazeera.net/programs/shareea/articles/2000/12/12-12-6.htm
...

Ahmad Al Qataani...

As to how that happened, well
.there are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity
These numbers are very large indeed …..

Maher Abdallah (interrupting):
Hold on! Let me clarify. Do we have 6 million converting from Islam to Christianity or converting from Islam and other religions?

Ahmad Al Qataani:
Great (question)! The other religions are not placed on the list of Christianization; rather they are placed on the list of evangelization. The other religion in Africa is paganism; so it’s Islam, Christianity or paganism.
"praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved" Acts 2:47, (Acts of the Apostles, chapter 2: verse 47)
 
From:
http://www.meforum.org/article/104
The deterioration of the image of Islam during the crisis has played its part in this rise of conversions to Christianity and the adoption of its principles. What is happening and what has happened in Algeria, such as the massacres and killings in the name of Islam,1 has [sic] led many, when asked what the difference, in their view, was between Islam and Christianity, to declare: "Christianity is life, Islam is death."

From:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/testimonials.htm
Testimonies of Those Who Left Islam
Muslims use estimonials of people who convert to Islam as a tool in their propagandistic campaign. No doubt these personal stories can be very powerful and have a great effect on those who are investigating Islam. They go as far as fabricating converts and ridiculously claim that some celebrities have converted to Islam. Here is a list of the hoax conversions.

Neil Armstrong
Jaques Cousteau
Jacques Cousteau, Michael Jackson & Neil Armstrong (a Muslim knows better)
Maurice Bucaille
King Offa
Abdu'l-Ahad Dawud (Professor David Benjamin Keldani), a former Catholic Bishop?
The Coptic Cardinal Abu Ishaq
Of course there have been few celebrities like Cat Stevens and Muhammad Ali that have become Muslims. However, there is another side to the coin that the Muslims won’t tell you; i.e. there are more people who leave Islam han those who embrace it.

....
Ibn Warraq's excellent collection of estimonies is now available.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...06371/sr=11-1/ref=sr_11_1/103-4250690-1815867

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm


For the following, links are found here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/testimonials.htm
Asad Raza 2004/01/31

Ahboo 2003/12/04

Rebecca 2003/11/03

Zaa Brifd 2003/10/27

Former Muslim 2003/09/15

Saeed 2003/09/07

Soy Yo 2003/08/02

Ampbreia 2003/08/04

Jahed Ahmed 2003/06/16

Ben Rukhsana 2003/05/17

Ismahan Levi 2003/03/17

Abu Lahab 2003/01/16

Ex-Malaysian Muslim 2003/01/06

Aisha S 2003/01/06

Simplejoe 2002/10/31

Ismael 2002/10/31

Parvin Darabi 200209/12

Fariel 2002/08/23

American Ex Muslim 2002/08/04

Got rid of Islam 2002/07/02

Mahavira 2002/06/02

Z Ali 2002/05/30

Shafi H. 2002/05/27

Saeed 2002/05/01

Kit

S.K.

Haider

Kim Jay

Behrouz

B. Pirouz

Faiza

Shabnam Nadiya

D.

Free Man

Jen

Marianne

Ahmad K.

Raza

Ali Z,

Susan

A.E.

Roza

Abul Kasem

For more testimonials go to ISIS site..
http://www.secularislam.org/testimonies/testimonies.htm


P_M, I'll be praying & waiting for your name to appear here, don't be 'proud', be 'humble' before your God
 
it all looks like self-praise for propaganda purposes to me (both sides)

like in a tooth paste commercial or something .. "more people are switching to Floride Plus"! or "4 out of 5 experts agree!"
 
Liars and haters tend to quote from famous hate sites like faithfreedom.org while me, I quote from NON MUSLIM sources to prove Islam is indeed the fastest growing religion on earth, what if I started quoting from Muslim sources as well ???? ok, let us see first the NON MUSLIM SOURCES, places like CNN, NEW YORK TIMES, MSNBC, THE BBC, THE GLOBE AND MAIL...ETC

Islamic Britain lures top people
Sunday Times 22 February 2004
MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/649424.asp

-'' Indeed, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world'' The Economist, London Sept 2003

-BBC: Thousands of Asutralia's Aboriginals are converting to Islam:
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2902315.stm

-Islam is spreading so fast in Mexico:

http://www.finalcall.com/international/mexico07-02-2002.htm

http://www.racematters.org/islamtakesrootinmexico.htm

- EVEN IN HAWAII, MORE AND MORE ARE CONVERTING TO ISLAM:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2001/Nov/11/ln/ln06a.html

-In South Africa, so many blacks are converting to Islam:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0110/p13s1-woaf.html

-Thousands in Rawanda-Africa are converting to Islam every year:

http://www.xamarcadde.com/rawanda.html

- Hindus in india are converting to Islam in their masses:

http://www.milligazette.com/Archive.../0111200275.htm

- Islam is back to Spain after 500 years:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1002/p07s01-woeu.html

- More and more americans are converting to Islam specially after 9/11:

http://www.yorknewstimes.com/stories/042702/neb_0427020012.shtml

- NEW YORK TIMES: ISLAM ATTRACT THOUSANDS DRAWN BEFORE AND AFTER 9/11:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30D13FA345A0C718EDDA90994D9404482

- The Canadian Globe and Mail: Islam is now the fastest growing religion in Canada:
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030514/UCENSN/TPFront/TopStories

Islam: The Next American Religion?

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/69/story_6982.html

Catholic World News: Exhilarating Time To Be Christian," But Islam Grows Faster

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=16311

U.S. Department of State for International Information programes: Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in America:

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/muslimlife/

Muslims outpace Anglicans in UK

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/444572.cms

A Spanish bridge to Islam:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1002/p07s01-woeu.html

Britain Elites are converting to Islam:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/03/286384.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096872/posts

http://www.lightuponlight.com/islam...ws&new_topic=14

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/artic...erahIslam.shtml

-Islam is also spreading in Ukraine:

http://www.crimeatau.org.ua/project/islam/itriu.html

AND NOW THE MUSLIM SOURCES:

journey.jpg


From the poorest villages on Earth to the richest palaces the world has seen, people from all walks of life have and continue to embrace Islam. From the time Prophet Muhammad up to today, literally countless numbers of people have embraced this way of life. The effort of this section is to capture the essence of what has brought so many people to Islam. "

http://www.islamonline.net/english/journey/journey.shtml

Italy's Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Converts To Islam:

http://www.welcome-back.org/news/cardilli.shtml

Former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam:

Abdullah al-Faruq - Formerly Kenneth L. Jenkins, minister and elder of the Pentecostal Church
Dr. Jerald F. Dirks - Former minister (deacon) of the United Methodist Church. He holds a Master's degree in Divinity from Harvard University and a Doctorate in Psychology from the University of Denver. Author of The Cross and the Crescent: An Interfaith Dialogue between Christianity and Islam (ISBN 1-59008-002-5 - Amana Publications, 2001). He has published over 60 articles in the field of clinical psychology, and over 150 articles on Arabian horses
Viacheslav Polosin - Former Archpriest of the Russian Orthodox Church
Anselm Tormeeda - 14th century CE scholar and priest
Khadijah 'Sue' Watson - Former pastor, missionary, professor. Master's degree in Divinity
Ibrahim Khalil - Former Egyptian Coptic priest
Anonymous Female Missionary - Former Catholic missionary
Martin John Mwaipopo - Former Lutheran Archbishop
Raphael - Former Jehovah's Witness minister
George Anthony - Former Catholic priest
Dr. Gary Miller (Abdul-Ahad Omar) - Former missionary

http://www.thetruereligion.org/priests.htm

JEWS TO ISLAM:

http://www.jewstoislam.com

JEWS FOR ALLAH: Jewish testimonies

http://www.jews-for-allah.org

Stories of New Muslims:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/newmuslims/

CONVERTS TO ISLAM:

http://www.convertstoislam.com

WELCOME BACK TO ISLAM:

http://www.welcome-back.org/

http://www.welcome-back.org/profile/cosens.shtml

Anecdotal evidence suggests that there has been a surge in conversions to Islam since September 11, especially among affluent young white Britons

http://www.sharif.org.uk/maqsood.htm

Prominent Converts to Islam

http://www.salaam.co.uk/themeofthemonth/june02_index.php?l=6

CHRISTIANS CONVERTING TO ISLAM

http://www.sharif.org.uk/converts.htm

ENJOY !!! :)
 
PM, I'm not sure where you're going with all of this. I'm surprised that you spend all this time posting links to conversion stories without posting any real content.

What sort of reaction do you expect from us, PM?
 
Its very difficult to prove any religion is growing fastest in the world, theres so many countrys and so many relgions and you'd need to take all of them into account, as far as i was aware more people are becoming athiest than anything else and not going to church or anything.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/rib.html
Thats a good link for overall statistics in britain, and if you can find something similar from five years ago then you'll see the change in religions in britain, only a few hundred countries to go then we'll have this case solved.....
 
okinrus said:
PM, I'm not sure where you're going with all of this. I'm surprised that you spend all this time posting links to conversion stories without posting any real content.

well, if you bother yourself and check only one link you will find real content ( the story about the ITALIAB AMBASSADOR to saudi arabia converting to Islam is breath-taking for example)...in conclusion, the real content is that ISLAM is the fastest growing religion on earth DESPITE the relentless attack from hater, liars and islamophobes.

What sort of reaction do you expect from us, PM?

I am not expecting anything from you, I am not asking you to convert to islam, I am NOT pushing Islam down your throat as the pathetic christians do...if you show respect to Islam, you will have my unreserved respect, the reason I spent all this time posting the above links is to expose those pathetic christians who lie continuesly in order to defame Islam.
 
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