Iraqi Sunnis Ask for American Help

I'm not discussing the ring story with anyone who doesn't already know about it. This proves further the connection between the two.

Liberals like to tell us that there was no connection between Saddam and bin Laden, and thus no reason for the Bush administration to invade Iraq. There is more evidence to the contrary. More proof came recently.

The Pentagon posted a document online that was a letter from Saddam's intelligence agency indicating not only Al-Qaeda was cozy with Saddam, but also the Taliban.

The letter says binLaden was in contact with/visited Baghdad. The documents also mention and show a picture of al-Zarqawi.

There was an active link between binLaden and Saddam. Saddam had wmd. binLaden could be captured in Iraq and democrats still would never concede Bush was right to invade.:rolleyes:
 
Whether or not there were links between Al Qaeda and Saddam,
When the U.S invaded Iraq, it created a new battleground for Fundamentalists.

Also, Baron Max, Its as simple as re typing or copying the words and numbers in the address bar, i would like to read this story for myself,
 
Whether or not there were links between Al Qaeda and Saddam, When the U.S invaded Iraq, it created a new battleground for Fundamentalists.

And if we hadn't invaded, they might have done the same somewhere else. You can't know for sure, yet you made that statement as if it were a fact.

Also, Baron Max, Its as simple as re typing or copying the words and numbers in the address bar, i would like to read this story for myself,

I don't know where it is now ...check on the Associated Press site. I saw it on my home page when I logged onto the Internet. I'm sorry, but that's the best I can do.

Baron Max
 
baron said:
And if we hadn't invaded, they might have done the same somewhere else.
? ? This matter of justifying the Iraq invasion is getting very, very strange.

edit in: to find several widely available news articles on this topic, copy and paste the first line of the text into the Google Advanced Search "exact phrase" box and hit "enter"

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=577832
Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday that U.S. military officers were talking with Iraqi militants _ excluding al-Qaida _ about cease-fires and other arrangements to try to stop the violence. He said he thinks 80 percent of Iraqis, including Sunni insurgents and Shiite militants, can reach reconciliation with each other, although most al-Qaida operatives will not.

So now we are negotiating with some "terrorists", and treating their concerns as matters of importance. And the tactic seems to have worked, in Anbar.
 
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I'm not discussing the ring story with anyone who doesn't already know about it. This proves further the connection between the two.

Liberals like to tell us that there was no connection between Saddam and bin Laden, and thus no reason for the Bush administration to invade Iraq. There is more evidence to the contrary. More proof came recently.

The Pentagon posted a document online that was a letter from Saddam's intelligence agency indicating not only Al-Qaeda was cozy with Saddam, but also the Taliban.

The letter says binLaden was in contact with/visited Baghdad. The documents also mention and show a picture of al-Zarqawi.

There was an active link between binLaden and Saddam. Saddam had wmd. binLaden could be captured in Iraq and democrats still would never concede Bush was right to invade.:rolleyes:

Not without proof, and you've presented none so far.
 
Sunni Insurgents Battle in Baghdad

Sunni residents of a west Baghdad neighborhood used assault rifles and a roadside bomb to battle the Sunni insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq this week, leaving at least 28 people dead and six injured, residents said Thursday.

The mayor of the Amiriyah neighborhood, Mohammed Abdul Khaliq, said in a telephone interview that residents were rising up to try to expel al-Qaeda in Iraq, which has alienated other Sunnis with its indiscriminate violence and attacks on members of its own sect.

Before everyone thinks the US should interfere, let's read a quote from Abdul Khaliq in the same article:

Abdul Khaliq said he hoped U.S. forces would stay out of the fight. "But if the Americans interfere, it will blow up, because they are the enemy of us both, and we will unite against them and stop fighting each other," he said.

If the US interferes, the warring sides will unite again to fight the US.
 
I'm not discussing the ring story with anyone who doesn't already know about it. This proves further the connection between the two.

Liberals like to tell us that there was no connection between Saddam and bin Laden, and thus no reason for the Bush administration to invade Iraq. There is more evidence to the contrary. More proof came recently.

The Pentagon posted a document online that was a letter from Saddam's intelligence agency indicating not only Al-Qaeda was cozy with Saddam, but also the Taliban.

The letter says binLaden was in contact with/visited Baghdad. The documents also mention and show a picture of al-Zarqawi.

There was an active link between binLaden and Saddam. Saddam had wmd. binLaden could be captured in Iraq and democrats still would never concede Bush was right to invade.:rolleyes:

The Pentagon posted a document online that the official religion of the US is Satanism.

Also, a letter says Osama bin Laden is best friends with George W. Bush.

Space aliens are helping the Iraqi insurgency with the IEDs.

What I am trying to say is post PROOF, instead of your empty sentences. Without proof, anyone can post anything.

Like the NSA letter that connects a Sciforum user named Sandy to the Saddam Hussein regime. Apparently, Sandy sold classified US documents to the Hussein regime.
 
sandy, do you also believe that the WMDs Iraq never had were relocated to Syria and Iran?

Al Qaeda doesn't exist in Iraq. The people the Americans are fighting are ordinary Iraqis.
 
Syria has the capacity to make it's own weapons if it wants to.

Of course there is a branch of Al Quida in Iraq, led by Zarqawi, they do attract foriegn fighters from Saudi Arabia, but they are not the only group fighting the US presence there.

Al-Zarqawi declares war on Iraqi Shia [Al Jazeera]

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi allegedly took responsibility, on several audiotapes, for numerous acts of violence in Iraq. These acts include suicide bombings and the killing of soldiers, police officers and Shi'a militias. [wikipedia]


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Sandy,
The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq.

But the report of the commission's staff, based on its access to all relevant classified information, said that there had been contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda but no cooperation.
 
American government and media has a tendency to increase the fear generated by perceived threats to ridiculous levels.

The US is not fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq. We cannot believe one side of the war to be completely honest about the entire war. The US has continually invented myths like WMDs, and Al Qaeda to further their goals. This is merely a continuation of this trend. Somehow, the US seems to find Al Qaeda anywhere they want to justify a war or support for a war. For example, Somalia and Iraq.
 
American government and media has a tendency to increase the fear generated by perceived threats to ridiculous levels.
True.

The US is not fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq.
That might be true in the sense that Al Quida members rarely attack US troops directly.

We cannot believe one side of the war to be completely honest about the entire war.
But many sides in the Iraq conflict acknowledge the disruptive presence of Al Quida, not just those aligned with the US.

The US has continually invented myths like WMDs, and Al Qaeda to further their goals.
Saddam's WMDs were not a myth, but they were destroyed after the Gulf War.

This is merely a continuation of this trend. Somehow, the US seems to find Al Qaeda anywhere they want to justify a war or support for a war. For example, Somalia and Iraq.
Why aren't we in Somalia? Al Quida is in 80 nations.
 
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