Iran Next for 2005!

otheadp said:
Iran is the last country America will allow to get nukes... lessons were learned with North Korea, and i believe the ayatollahs will be stopped at all costs, meaning whatever it takes
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If Iran has nukes one day, then North Korea will think that it's possible and will have it too. In fact, I don't understand why NK doesn't have it (but because of economic help)... Which country could use a nuke to stop an other one to have it? None! So it would mean that this country should be invaded, but who could invade NK today? With Afganistan, Irak and all the world problems, US soldiers are everywhere and the other countries would not go there without a UN resolution (but UK or Japan maybe).
No, no one will let Iran have such weapons... it would mean to much problems!

And about the next country to be invaded by the USA, I don't think that there's one until a few years. At least not USA alone... and it could only happen if there was an other 9/11... :bugeye:
 
Inaugauration day seems a likely new 9-11.
The timing would be right. In time for the new draft implementation.
Whatever happens that is the catalyst always remember how Hitler consolidated power by destroying the Rittersmarch(spelling?) Seat of German Gov't, blamed it on others, the rest is history. And probably to repeat itself. Insert Jew for Terrorists in Bushes speeches. Lots of similarities.

"We will hunt them and kill them in the caves where they plot our homelands destruction. They are killers and madmen. They do not understand our resolve. They are evil. They can run, but they can't hide. We will stay on offense on this fight for freedom as long as it takes. Bring it on."
 
I rather think the americans would give the israeli permission for tactical airstrikes on Iranian targets, the aftermath of the iraqi invasion is still a mess, I don't think , even while seemingly ignoring national deficits, Bush could pull it of financially nor logistically nor politacally to have to deal with insurgants all over the middle east.

This in itselve would be a good reason for the iranians to give some (preferably non traceable) support to the insurgants in iraq to have the american army worried about covering its back, but still they would be rather worried about israeli airstrikes, so I expect the iranians to take the heat out of dispute and slow down or suspend their uranium enrichment until favourable oppertunity presents itselve...

We should be gratefull the chinese have not sold some of the weapongrade materials to iran or N-Korea, or have they?
 
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Jagger said:
All you have to do is look at the actions of Bush and you know he is mad. Where is any logical sense to invading Iraq?
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Iraq has been a big success for Bush. For one thing it bought him re-election; the tens of $millions of soft-money campaign contributions were part of the profits Bush handed the "defense", oil and other industries, with Iraq. And he can look forward to huge speaking fees as kickbacks when he leaves office. He's not mad, he's Republican, doing what Republicans do, i.e. selling off the country and warring for personal gain.
 
Shouldn't he be holding some tube containing anthrax?

I guess Powell needs that retirement money....
 
Overdose said:
US can not attack any other country for sometime now.
US can't even claim victory in a totally destroyed Iraq. Iran is not like Iraq and it would be much more difficult to invade.
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The US can claim victory in Iraq. It has been a giant corporate success, the only performance measure to a Republican administration. Corporate success ensures political success. Iraq costs US taxpayers hundreds of billions. See who gets the money.

Iran will also easily be a corporate and political success story. Bush’s executive order that grants blanket immunity to US oil companies means that only the oil fields, pipelines, and ports, along with a green zone, need be annexed and secured. Then Bush Oil tankers can mosey up to top off free of charge and without fear of litigation.

Meanwhile the “defense” industry will stay busy in Iraq. There’s a reason why the US military lets the “insurgents” escape to another city before attacking.
 
I think I will be moving my children up to Canada for the winter. Yes, if the Iragq thing ends with a good finish, there will be no stopping us. But a draft will be needed to move beyond our present activities. :D
 
I don't think Bush will have to go to Iran - I think it more likely that Iran will come to us, after a fashion.

I see events continuing to spiral downward in Iraq, and eventually the Iranians making incursions into the eastern Iraqi provinces to "secure their border" and to ostensibly "guarantee the security of their Shi'a brethren". If they arrive at the specific "request" of the province chiefs, then what are the Americans to do about it? We're not talking invasion here, just a slow seeping of advisors and low-key security forces into the area. If the Americans then choose to pick a fight, then all bets are off.

I expect this is how Iran could provoke Bush into war without acting overtly aggressively.

Part of the puzzle for the Americans is how to seal the borders of Iraq that leak fighters and materiel. How to do that, while avoiding antagonizing the Iranans and Syrians. Plus how to do it without about four times the number of boots on the ground that they have now....probably impossible.
 
If Iran is hostile, and they intend to use these nukes offensively (the dumbest damn thing I've ever heard, that'd be death to Iran), why does everyone think the US should do what it's doing and take on a new reconstruction project? The UN is should be doing this! That's why america's taking everything into its own hands, because the UN is so freggin sissified it doesn't want to do anything! The UN needs to wake up and start liberally applying boot to ass in several countries, starting with Sudan, and maybe Iran if reason suggests.
 
vslayer said:
corporate success??? since the US went to war, their dollar has dropped about 20%
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Which provides a financial boon to US corporations. Non-Americans can buy US goods cheaper now, driving up exports. And Americans will work harder to make those goods cheaper since their global net worth has declined to worsen their collective bargaining position. Also Americans will now tend to buy US goods rather than those from the foreign competition.
 
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