leopold99 said:
ophiolite
the alphawolf stated "when you CAN prove something it's a theory"
I can't find this in this thread. Where is it?
Taken out of context I would disagree with AlphaWolf. Within context, I don't know, because I can't find it.
In science there is always an element of doubt. There are certain 'facts' that are taken as axiomatic. Certain mathematical and geometrical 'facts' fit this description.
Observations, that have been repeated many times with flawless consistency are taken as 'fact'. Thus we observe the sun rise every day (though try spending a year in the Arctic and see what happens to your 'fact' then).
Theories that arise out of attempts to explain observations will be treated as 'fact', once the theory accounts repeatedly, effectively and in the most simple manner imaginable for the observations.
But in both of the last instances the 'facts' are always provisional; the proof always subject to modification.
leopold99 said:
alpha calls me retard,ignorant, little boy and others. what is it about questioning the unknown that makes me any of those? .
In scanning this thread for Alphas comments on 'proof' I did not spot any of his insults. I am not here to defend Alpha. I shall say that when I use those terms on a fellow poster it is out of frustration at their ignorance.
Let me be precise. You do appear to be unaware of the huge volume of research that has been conducted into abiogenesis, and how this pretty well demonstrates that abiogenesis is a 'fact', though the details remain as yet undetermined. You are therfore, objectively ignorant.
Now we are all ignorant in many fields. When I am aware of my ignorance in a field I do not go around making pronouncements that should only properly be made by someone with knowledge in that field. Instead, I try to acquire the knowledge, or I accept the interpretation of the knowledgeable person. If I do nto choose this reasonable approach I would expect to be called a child (because of the immaturity of my approach) and a retard (because of the lack of thought that went into it).
leopold99 said:
the solution to abiogenesis is unknown. i have never even heard the word until i came to this board. read some of my posts in the life of cells poll it will tell you where i stand on this issue.(maybe) by the way it's been 35 or more years since i have been in h.s.
It is 39 years since I was in high school. I never heard the term there. As I suggested earlier it is likely dealt with in the most cursory manner, because we do not yet understand the details. And I repeat the solution to the origin of life is known: it is abiogenesis. The precise path of many possible paths that was followed is not yet clear. That lack of clarity typifies a field that is on the fronteirs of science. That makes it exciting, intriguing, inspiring, tantalising, important, dramatic, and many like things. It does not make it unknown.
I shall read your posts in the life of cells.
