Originally posted by Jaxom
here's a counter link for the irreducibly complex argument.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html
Jaxom, I quoted some of what i read from that link u sent concerning "intelligent design vs. freak accident (by atheist)". Read it, after all it is from your so-called scientific study website.
Originally posted by Jaxom
"Darwin v. Intelligent Design (Again)
The latest attack on evolution is cleverly argued, biologically informed-and wrong.
H. Allen Orr
Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution
Michael J. Behe
Free Press, $25
So how does Behe explain duplicate genes? He doesn't. He reluctantly admits that different genes often have similar sequences. He even admits that some genes in his favorite pathway-blood clotting-are similar.7 But he refuses to draw the obvious conclusion: some genes are copies of others. Does Behe think their similarity is a coincidence-they just happen to look alike? It is, I think, clear why Behe fails to face up to duplicate genes: were he to admit that one gene is a copy of another, he'd have to admit that a copy was made at some point in time and thus that the organism once got along without it. But this implies that such systems can arise step by step. Behe avoids this conclusion only by sheer evasion: he brands gene duplication a "hypothesis," leaves the similarity of his favorite genes unexplained, and quickly moves on to safer turf.
Irreducible Confusion
In truth, we're done. Behe's chief objection to Darwinism is flat wrong, and, bereft of this, he's got little to say. But when you do look at what else he says, you find a bizarre string of confusions and contradictions."
How stupid, this guy thought that we believe that genes are not copies of each other but happens to look alike coincidentally. Then this pathetic atheist scientist goes on whining why he cant get a press, you know why he cant? Because he is stupid! And if media offers him a chance, I bet he wont accept it because he knows his a lying idiot himself (he has to unless he is a retard).
We do agree with evolution, Behe stressed that clearly. We agree how we descend from apes, (though it is just a theory) or even better yet, to tickle your ears we do agree that we evolve OFF EXISTING SINGLED CELL, again WE AGREE WITH EVOLUTION, FOR THINGS EVOLVE, WE ARE ALL IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER, GENES CAN MAY INDEED BE RELATED TO EACH OTHER; HOWEVER EVOLUTION DOESNT PROVE THINGS EXIST. PERIOD, IF THERES ANYTHING ATHEIST ARE GOOD AT, THEN THAT WILL BE PUTTING WORDS IN OUR MOUTH AND LYING COMPULSIVELY .
The theory atheist comes out concerning how things evolve is. "A Cell didnt appear overnight, but it took millions of years"..In other words....
There was void, nothing, & we came from nowhere like mathematics "-we r,-1234567890=1234567890 (So if your a teen & mom caught you holding 3 bottles of beer, just tell her “be quite mom, the 3 bottles of beer came out of nowhere, it was –123=123, formula E=MC2, LOL”). Then accidentally, a cell appeared! Don’t know how but I think the hurricane, lightning, & earthquake did it by "LUCK" (Physics). Then the single cell survived like a barbarian & "accidentally & luckily" got bigger. But this didn’t happen in one single step, but through random luck/chance (Super Extra Luck). The nucleus was luckily made first, this guy u wont believe it, he was very strong & was waiting until Mr. cytoplasm appeared. Then later on mitochondria accidentally appeared, he then said to cytoplasm & nucleus "sorry guys it took me 100,000,000,000,000,000 yrs to exist, its just that Mr. earthquake didn’t shake me right at first but it doesn’t matter, I accidentally appeared now, thanks for waiting guys", then ribosome accidentally appeared, then thousands & thousands of other parts accidentally appeared to join the rest of the crew until it became a fully develop cell. Men u wouldn’t believe it but for some weird reasons the first parts were mysteriously strong & survived on their own for millions of years w/out any help until the rest of the parts appeared to become a fully developed cell. Mr. Nucleus because he was waiting so long, he was mad at the lightning & wind saying "Punks, why did u guys make me wait this long! Damn it lightning, create Mr. cytoplasm quicker next time ok!" this cell was very strong, strong enough to survive alone & replicate itself until it became trillions & trillions & turned into a fish!! This cell is over trillions years old waiting all those time for the rest of the body parts to appear! If I were u, I wouldn’t mess around with this cell, I bet 100 bucks it could knock out Mike Tyson in 3 rounds. This fish then became land mammals, then dinosaurs, then here we are today zillions of zillions of years later, we are all accidents. (In this case, u can put a raisin outside & millions of yrs from now that sun dried grape will turn into dinosaurs, fishes, birds, etc., thanks to the simple laws of physics, LOL).
There’s only one option left, the proven intelligent designer. Accept this or you’ll share this proofless pathetic theory, this theory is a joke…