Immaculate Conception
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I agree.
Jesus mother wasn’t a virgin and his birth was a normal human occurrence. The concept and belief of a virgin Mary reveals the credulous nature of humans.
can we get a poll on this one?
That is YOUR idea
and wiki is
that is you changing and still not comprehending the thread inquiry.... all the time.
you finally articulated your claim in a fashion of understandibility of YOUR position on the matter. Now anyone can go look up YOUR observances.
sure........
anyone else have a go?
anything older, than today's interpretation by the 1bird?
or
mr educational one, perhaps you can share what you find on the 'virgin birth' (your EXACT WORDS) and see if there is something OLDER
p/s.... sure glad you cleared that up, (as you must know the immaculate conception is no where in the bible.) but the concept is observed and attributed to parts within most every book (torah, bible, quran)
you have this thread all over the place now
Wiki is THE SAME AS MINE. Immaculate Conception of Mary, mother of Jesus.
Everyone is born a virgin.
No, because I am done attempting to have an actual discussion with an ass whose ignorance is only matched by his arrogance.
that and this
are different
i like that last one
"everyone is born a virgin"............................ that's deep
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sorry
i was laughing with the return down
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M*W: I would think that most Catholics do know that Mary was the Immaculate Conception. Yikes, when I was a Catholic, they taught that. Then there are all the Immaculate Conception of Mary Churches. Never heard of one called the Immaculate Conception of Jesus Church. Still, it's just another myth.
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M*W: There is a stele or a tombstone of a Roman soldier named Pantera. I forget his whole name. Too lazy to look it up again. Some people say the name means "panther," but I think it could mean something like "Pan (bread) tera (of the earth), but then, that's just me. The story goes that he either raped Mary or had an affair with her, and that he is the natural father of Jesus. This gravesite is allegedly somewhere in Germany. Info on this can be found on the Internet.
Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera,
From Wikipedia,
Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera (c. 22 BCE – CE 40) was a Roman archer of the Cohors I Sagittariorum. He is most notable because of a suggestion (vita di Gesù, Craveri 1966) that he is to be identified with the Roman soldier Panthera, who the writer Celsus claimed[1] was the true father of Jesus. All information about Abdes Pantera's life comes from his tombstone, found in Bingerbrück, Germany in 1859.
Gday,
A poll?
Why?
We can already see that many people do not grasp that the V.B. and the I.M. refer to completely different things.
We can already see that even when someone like one_raven points out the facts, some people STILL refuse to believe it, or even to check the facts (why didn't you look up the VB and IM in a Catholic encyclopedia or something?)
Why would a poll of how many people still get it wrong be of any use?
What matters is the facts, not the people believe otherwise.
The VB and the IM are completely different things, and believers tend to mix them up all the time, but then refuse to admit error when it's pointed out.
K.
A poll?
Why?
We can already see that many people do not grasp that the V.B. and the I.M. refer to completely different things.
We can already see that even when someone like one_raven points out the facts, some people STILL refuse to believe it, or even to check the facts (why didn't you look up the VB and IM in a Catholic encyclopedia or something?)
Why would a poll of how many people still get it wrong be of any use?
What matters is the facts, not the people believe otherwise.
The VB and the IM are completely different things, and believers tend to mix them up all the time, but then refuse to admit error when it's pointed out.
K.
Ophiolite
Valued Senior Member
It is not a ****ing interpretation, you ****ing moron. It is a ****ing fact.
them last 2 posts are just funny as shit
the thread was not questioning who said what.
as well anyone with any comprehension, knows that the IM is 'considered' to be "Jesus being conceived by mary, without sex."
if you all like your idea, because your sooooo good loooking, then fine
why not read the OP and deal with the thread
the thread was not questioning who said what.
as well anyone with any comprehension, knows that the IM is 'considered' to be "Jesus being conceived by mary, without sex."
if you all like your idea, because your sooooo good loooking, then fine
why not read the OP and deal with the thread
all births are children born virgin
is impossible; even read what Jesus said
Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
so if jesus was not perfect (immaculate), then i claim foul to any who say that another is.
but that is not what the thread is on
jeff, we know you believe but you just don't read
matt 16:20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ
what did jesus say?
John 14: 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
i tink he said, i am not HE
that the HE is coming
and follow the damn rules
(that means no false witnessing, jeff)
like i said, you believe but you don't read
the thread was on, has anyone seen anything prophetic, in previous literature about babies being born without women having intercourse;
kind of like OUR TIME (test tube babies)
Son, you don't get it. Why not leave it at that?