What a perfect answer. When it comes to EVERYTHING else we have lots to learn, but we know all there is to know about god. That can't sound ridiculus to just me right?
If the World was Meant to be Good then
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What a perfect answer. When it comes to EVERYTHING else we have lots to learn, but we know all there is to know about god. That can't sound ridiculus to just me right?
uh, heaven?
Did I say heaven? I don't care what God said about heaven. OK, if you want to talk about heaven then why are heaven and Earth both declared good by God?
The truth is no one at all knows if there is one god, multiple gods or zero god .
All the folks are guessing and science does not back their guessing at the present time . I believe in science .
I hope that you mature. Because right now your looking pretty pathetic indeed.
I am embarrassed for you.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
lol, who said god declared earth as good? and if he declared it AND heaven good then why would we want to leave earth to heaven, they're both good right?
you asked about how can perfection of life be experienced, not only exist, and i said heaven.
Just so I can be sure, you only get there by dying right?
Just how perfect is heaven? If Heaven is a perfect place then does a human (Soul or whatever) entering affect that status?
Odd that one has to be dead to experience the perfection of life.
Psychotic episode
once you've applied issues of outcome and purpose
For some reason, you don't want to elaborate on it though.
Isopanisad - Invocation. The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.
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sure
once you've applied issues of outcome and purpose
When you make statements like "good if you like imperfection" its obvious you have some issues of purpose and outcome at work.
For some reason, you don't want to elaborate on it though.
probably because you haven't read around the topic sufficiently (which is often the problem of persons facing difficulties at the level of theory)
Isopanisad - Invocation. The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.
Probably because you have a different sense of purpose about the utility of the universe.
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Nice going Sherlock. I'm only interested in what you have to say. I'm elaborating on it as much as you elaborated on what you know of God. I figure fair is fair.
I see. So your god did not want anyone to know what "good" was and hence to have no knowledge of god or any reason to actually worship him, (assuming that such an action is 'good'). He would rather you have been.... a slug?
It's always interesting to note that "free will" implies nothing beyond the ability to make a choice. It does not suggest that there is any reason or value in making a 'choice', (something that knowledge of good and evil helps with), merely that - for whatever pointless reason - an individual can make one. This is how you and your god apparently wanted life to be - one where you would make a choice, in that an ant "chooses" to turn left, without any bloody reason whatsoever to do it.
It's really quite sad. You want to have remained an animal - a being that didn't even know it was naked, a being that had no knowledge of good or evil and hence could never have made a worthwhile choice in anything - even in whether to worship gods or not.
Have you not read the story of the Garden of Eden? God used to visit them in the garden before they came to the knowledge of good and evil. So they had personal and real knowledge of God before they got the knowledge of good and evil.
As for worship. I do not think God is after the kind of worship you are thinking is worship. God wants people to worship in spirit and truth. That means to believe He is God and justified to be so. Belief and trust is worth far more then pathetic bowing and chanting. All the flowery words people might think up to use to praise God will all fall short of the true glory of God. So like our righteousness our praise is as filthy rags to God.
Ha
You know nothing about our former state. You make the same mistake as others here have equating our former state to being animals. They where never animals. And there is a reason to make a decision in favour of God. That is because of His righteousness.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
dying AND doing as ordered in your prelife.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo perfect, any better?
yes it does, it becomes more perfect, or maybe then it BECOMES perfect, it's sole goal of existance is to be a perfect enviornment for humans.
lol, speak of close minded.
god can put you back to life again, you know.
Prelife? :shrug: What were your orders?
Why do you question heavenly perfection, not sure?
Oh, it's not perfect until you get there. Why you?
So I am dead for all intents and purposes? However I was alive at some point, sometime between prelife and now I suppose. Ok, not now because I probably became dead a while ago. How do you know you're not dead also?
As Clint said In The Outlaw Jose Wales, 'Dying ain't much of a living, boy'.
What is "good"?
I need your information resources.
A dominant species would develop culture and science, strive for the common good, and reach for the stars, colonizing other worlds, spreading and improving their kind.
Objectively, this planet is a dandy, just a life-loving place to raise your kids up. You kinda start losing me here though, a bit more rambling than before.
What you talkin' 'bout, Willis? ...and bad is really bad for us. Take the bad-good over the bad-bad any chance you get I say.
Me. And you don't need the ellipsis.
Ah, the worshiper of magic sky fairies thinks I need to mature? How quaint.
You should tell your imaginary friend all about it.
All Praise The Ancient Of Daze
Your holy book.
Gen 1:31
God looked at everything he had made, and he found it very good.
Take another gander at your OP big guy
Actually even you can bring qualitative models of god to the fore of a discussion.
For some reason though you can't do the same in this current discussion of good vs evil in a world created by god with us int he middle.
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No need to
I said I was good, not humble.I have it on no less an authority than the abrahamic god.
Gen 1:31
God looked at everything he had made, and he found it very good.
Though certain private quarters have opinioned that I'm actually great.