Hymen, Appendix, and Wisdom Teeth

that's a good one Keith. Some people are born with a tail

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Could that just be an elongated Coccyx?
 
Some people are born with bent toes. I remember a friend of mine hade an elongated big toe that, interestingly enough, wrapped over the next toe. Which was good because it did not interfere with shoes.

Now since the Coccyx is under the skin any time it would grow longer it would exit the internal skeletal formation and just have skin on it.
 
A bigger jaw is also a vestige of excessive cud (veg matter) chewing.
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Why would you need those extra teeth tho chew vegetables? Even if they are all raw. In fact, i imagine the human uses 4 to 8 teeth (total) for breaking and actaully thae same amount only on the sides for chewing. seems like food dont even go near those back teeth. Or am i wrong?

Why do some organisms evolve to be larger? To get to different sources of food (like giraffes) to better protect their young (like bears) to better hunt (like big cats) to increase their food gathering ability (like humpback whales) to bear more young etc etc. There are a lot of reasons, all dependent on what environment the organism lives in.

Bill, i was strictly referring to humans. Humans are the end product of an evolutionary chain that, at some point, first evolved larger then evolved again to be smaller but why evolve larger in the first place only to then become smaller?
 
And how long has it taken for wisdom teeth to disappear? How long have we been doing better dental care?

so no, not thousands of years

What i mean is perhaps some were born with and some without throughout history?

Do you have records?
 
Do you guys think that it is reasonable to say that humans use 16-20 of their teeth for actual survival purpose? I would say overall 20, 16 would be a minimal amount.

Though even still we have 32 (adult male).

My teeth are strange though so i wonder if that is true for everyone.
 
Do you guys think that it is reasonable to say that humans use 16-20 of their teeth for actual survival purpose? I would say overall 20, 16 would be a minimal amount.

Though even still we have 32 (adult male).

My teeth are strange though so i wonder if that is true for everyone.

I'm pretty sure I use all my teeth. My mom is still yelling at me for continuing to open bottles with my back teeth.
 
Why would you need those extra teeth tho chew vegetables?

Because they are a lot harder to chew than meat. That's why herbivores teeth are much more extensive, and their jaws are stronger than, carnivores.

Even if they are all raw. In fact, i imagine the human uses 4 to 8 teeth (total) for breaking and actaully thae same amount only on the sides for chewing. seems like food dont even go near those back teeth. Or am i wrong?

The molars are the teeth that mechanically break down all the food we eat.

Bill, i was strictly referring to humans. Humans are the end product of an evolutionary chain that, at some point, first evolved larger then evolved again to be smaller but why evolve larger in the first place only to then become smaller?

Because of evolutionary pressures. It might have been to better defend their children, or better catch food, or better build shelter. It might have been due to sexual selection; larger males may have been seen as more desirable, which over time will drive to a larger organism.
 
records of what? who had them removed and who didn't?

Yes. How do we know that there is an increase of humans born without? How do we know that sometimes they are there and sometimes they are not throughout?

Considering no real medical records of this were kept or even who would have taken a consensus? Were they even looked for?
 
Because my daughters orthodontist said so. He said more and more (but not a majority) of his patients have missing teeth and it runs in families. My son is missing 6 by the way. Not due to accident or disease, but they were just never there. He has a Tom Cruise smile because of it. (the 2 front teeth don't center)

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Because they are no longer needed. It happens all the time; fish, for example, will lose their eyes if they remain in dark caves for long enough. Eyes are no longer needed so they are evolved away.



Fingers in bats. Thumbs in cats. Arms and legs in whales. Eyes in cave fish.

do u literally have images of cats with thumbs, bats with fingers and cave fish with eyes?
 
the hyman isn't solid. Menstrual blood flows through it, so I'm sure amniotic fluid has no barrier. And really? Amniotic fluid gets into the abdominal cavity?



Pardon. are you not a mother, did you not loos your hymen tiding a bicycle , or was it not during intercourse.

As far wisdom teeth , if I remember correctly Neanderthal man or a more primitive hominid had an additional set of teeth and hi jaw was larger .
 
actually if the resurch i herd about recently is right the apendix is VERY important. The theory goes that we are causing cancers and other problems because we keep killing off the gut flora (with antibotics). Now if that resurch is right then the implication is that the apendix is important because everytime you get diahrea you lose all your gut flora and the apendix alows it to be repopulated.
You beat me to it. I've heard that same theory regarding the appendix being a reservoir Of normal flora.
As for wisdom teath they were more important before we got dental hygine and managed to keep our teeth longer. They also would have fit alot better in a bigger jaw like that from the nethadathals.
I'm not so sure abbot the Neandethal theory since modern humans have very little Neanderthal DNA, but the idea that wisdom teeth were "intended" to replace earlier teeth that had rotted away seems pretty obvious.
 
sorry your right about neandethal, they were parallel to us, i ment to say the next step up which we both developed from
 
do u literally have images of cats with thumbs, bats with fingers and cave fish with eyes?

Cats no longer have thumbs, but they still have the genes that express them - and so occasionally you still see a cat with a thumb.

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Dolphins no longer have legs, but they still have the genes that express them - and so occasionally you still see legs on a dolphin.

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Cave fish with eyes - see the following pic, which is a mexican tetra and the eyeless form it evolved into once it started living in caves.
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Cats no longer have thumbs, but they still have the genes that express them - and so occasionally you still see a cat with a thumb.

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Bill, all we can say is that cats have paws. Paws that look like hands, fingers and a thumb. I dont see many ways to make a cat with now paws for the simple fact that it would not be able to grab small things, the pads enable some feeling as well. You want to call that one odd short one a thumb then call it a thumb.
 
Bill, let us take a new planet with water, dirt, rocks and a sun etc. and wait for millions of years then what do you think will happen in that million of years to this new planet?

Lets run through the basics and add them as we go along:

Dirt
Water (fresh and salt)
Rocks
Vegetation (non sentient)

What do you suppose will happen after millions of years?
 
Bill, if you want to take the cats thumb further then look at its arms. We have arms too. If the cat had no arms it would fall over.
 
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