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Human Sacrifices Brought To The Planet Venus
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The Moon was also worshipped as a God by many ancient civilisations.
In fact, in most cultures, the Sun was the primary object of worship, followed by the Moon.
Did you not know that?
Nonsense. People have been sacrificed to the Sun and the Moon in the past.
Go find your own, it would be good for you. Try the Mayans and the Aztecs for starters. And there were others as well - they even recorded it at the time.
This will depend upon what you mean by "planet." If you mean when did people realize that Venus and the other "wandering stars" were analogous to Earth as a planet, then this is a relatively recent discovery.
Most ancient cultures spent a good part of their day in total darkness (they didn't have the luxury of electricity after all, and fuels for lamps were a costly resource), thus they had the canvas of the night sky to observe each day. This is a canvas pre-industrial cultures were very intimate with. The stars were relatively fixed and their positions changed very slowly over time and not at all with relationship to each other. Planets -the wandering stars, however, appeared more free. Their positions changed nightly with relationship to other stars.
The luminosity of Venus in a very dark night sky is such that you can just about see its phases even with the naked eye. For modern civilizations, the night sky has far less significance, washed out in the luminous pollution of cities and towns, cars and homes. But, in antiquity, Venus was one of the most significant lights in the sky since it was predictable yet mobile; bright yet small in relation to the Moon.
The real question should be are there any civilizations in antiquity that didn't revere Venus and, if so, why not?
Regardless, if you're making the claim that every or even most civilizations in antiquity "brought to the planet Venus" their sacrifices, you'll need to produce the data which support this.
This is not germane to the topic. If your primary purpose is to bait those that don't believe in your superstitions, then the thread will quickly close. Please stay on the topic. His point was valid: if someone is willing to put superstitious belief in a mere book, then it isn't a stretch to imagine that someone else might put superstitious belief in something as glorious and wondrous as a planet or other astronoimical phenomena.
On what data do you base this? Human sacrifices (and, more commonly, sacrifices of food, livestock, grain, and material goods) were brought to gods that were represented many astronomical as well as earthbound phenomena.
Nor has anyone suggested any such thing. You stated that human sacrifices were not brought to the Sun or Moon. His point was to show that this is a fallacious statement by showing a culture that did sacrifice to both the Sun and the Moon.
Its starting to be apparent that your goal here isn't to actually have a discussion but to set everyone up for yet another crackpot "theory."
Having exposed your crackpot plan, you have three choices:
1) deny having a crackpot "theory" to suddenly pop in like you do in other forums you spam.
2) show us your crackpot "theory."
3) decide to participate in an actual discussion for a change where you actually exchange ideas and information and possibly learn a thing or two.
We await your decision.
Actually, he will choose a fourth one, Skin: to continue baiting and trolling forever until the powers that be finally zap him into forum nonexistance where he rightfully belongs.
for the same reason those very same people worshipped the moon, mars, saturn, the sun, rocks, virgins, twins, and horse shit.
and if you think that horse shit has never been worshipped just ask any farmer.
So let's continue the topic academically and discuss and examine the anthropological basis for sacrifice in various human cultures.
The Mayan notion of sacrifice was one that often involved blood, and there's evidence that the person sacrificed was, very often, a willing participant. The removal of the heart from live victims is depicted on several murals (obviously they weren't alive after the removal). Victims were also dropped in cenotes, deep natural caverns filled with water, along with other goods. Sacrifices weren't always death of a person, and there's no indication that they were "always" to the god of Venus.
Many stele and murals of ancient Maya depict rulers participating in autosacrifices -bloodlettings- by pulling strings of thorns through tongues and earlobes or by cutting these and genitalia with obsidian or stingray spines. There's no indication that this was done to venerate a star or planet but, rather, in accordance with the Popol Vuh and the worldview that includes an underworld.
The Mayan notion of sacrifice was one that often involved blood, and there's evidence that the person sacrificed was, very often, a willing participant. The removal of the heart from live victims is depicted on several murals (obviously they weren't alive after the removal). Victims were also dropped in cenotes, deep natural caverns filled with water, along with other goods. Sacrifices weren't always death of a person, and there's no indication that they were "always" to the god of Venus.
Many stele and murals of ancient Maya depict rulers participating in autosacrifices -bloodlettings- by pulling strings of thorns through tongues and earlobes or by cutting these and genitalia with obsidian or stingray spines. There's no indication that this was done to venerate a star or planet but, rather, in accordance with the Popol Vuh and the worldview that includes an underworld.