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Well...
I don't trust the books written by Bart Sibrel...
I don't trust sites that promote propaganda in order to support a notion that is in direct contradiction of evidence...
I don't trust the Lions club...
I trust quite a bit that I can verify independently, however.
I am (as I point out on occasion) a nube.
I've only dealt with some of dragons claims a few times.
Yet, Dragon demonstrates the same behavior I see in these websites.
Such as denying clear evidence and putting forth claims without support.
How can I trust the claims made by a person that doesn't know what a proof is or doesn't know what makes a theory work?
How can I trust someone that clearly states a personal bias?
I do not dislike the man or have any personal beef with him. But I dislike what he is DOING.
Promoting ignorance in order to validate a belief that is in contradiction of the evidence is a terrible thing to do.
It causes harm.
It creates ignorance that leads to misconceptions and a lack of progress.
It inhibits development and learning.
It decreases understanding and the ability to use that understanding as a basis for advancement.
All of which assists in the world being the huge fat mess that it is today.
Across this forum, you see illustrious debates over things that really are quite simple- When folks aren't complicating them with preconceptions or focusing on one factor rather than the whole picture.
It's frustrating to see people do this. To see people promote a backwards movement or denial of direct observation just because of an emotional need on their part.
There is So Much Damage Done by this behavior in all our lives-- from the minor to major global harm.
I do understand that many issues are not well understood nor clearly defined. But does ignorance help that in any way? Or does critical thinking and observation and learning help?
It's well demonstrated that homosexuality is not a choice.
Yet, a believer will close his eyes. Blind himself to the wealth of medical evidence and deny it all- just because some guy in a book was homophobic.
Which is Ironic- Because a "Christian" is one who follows the teachings of Christ. Christ taught to remove the plank from your own eye, to open your eyes and SEE, to not cast judgment frivolously. The man whom the religion is named after is largely ignored in favor of Timothy or Paul or Isaiah (OTB).
So many intersex, transgender or homosexual people are needlessly traumatized, not only by these believers in denial, they are by those influenced by ignorance, those that were not educated about these people that are gay, intersexed at birth or transexual.
I AM just as guilty over the course of my life. I've looked down on gays in my life simply for them being gay. It's sad it took me so long to realize I was WRONG.
I'm glad to say I never beat someone up or really used harsh words. At least I can say that much.
But Yes, that attitude was formed by my "Christian" (Quotes considering the hypocrisy of ignoring the teachings of Christ) upbringing. It absolutely was and I'm not delusional about that in the least.
How much tolerance should we have for such harmful attitudes?
Why should I be looked at as if there is something WRONG with me for being an Atheist - someone who is not guided by ancient ignorance, delusions and a belief in the supernatural?
A fundie would mock me if I believed in Fairy's and Gnomes!
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