"Gun Control"

iceaura said:
Notice that "burglary of an occupied dwelling" is one of the crimes taken most seriously by law enforcement.
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Most people would call that "robbery," not "burglary."
It's got implications far beyond "property".
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Indeed; depending on the details, it can be "assault."
If we take a crime beat reporter's impressions as reasonably accurate, we see that figuring out how many crimes have been prevented by guns would take a lot of work, work that nobody with the means in the US is attempting afaik.
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It will be difficult to estimate the number of robberies and assaults that are foiled by any means--guns, other weapons, martial arts, trained dogs, etc. How do we determine how many crimes of any type are foiled by the the victim?

Many victims are, themselves, violating the law when they're attacked. These people are hardly going to report the incidents to the police.
 
sideshowbob said:
There is no possibility of "reasonable" gun control in a nation with such an insane attitude toward guns.
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wellwisher said:
The main problem with making guns illegal, are guns will still be available via the black market.
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Case in point...
Gun control ≠ Making guns illegal

But that's the mindset people take when we talk about gun control in this country.

Fixing the gun show loophole, and putting limits on the manufacturing of certain weapons, so weirdos and middle age men going through their midlife crisis can't afford to buy these things like candy in a checkout line, simply doesn't register in people's mind when they hear the word "control"...

It doesn't matter though its a dead issue. It's far too late to do anything sensible due to the amount of guns that have been manufactured already.
 
The power of words may need to be addressed.

Rather than talk about "gun control" could we not talk about "laws to enshrine the right to bear arms" and "laws to protect gun owners safety" or perhaps "laws to prevent terrorist ownership of guns".

Alex
 
Gun control ≠ Making guns illegal

But that's the mindset people take when we talk about gun control in this country.
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That is also the apparent agenda of vocal and influential faction of the gun control advocates, and the immediate implication of a large fraction of the "arguments" advanced in support of gun control measures. So its appearance as a "mindset" is not a mystery.
 
Yep.

And if no one minds a little dive into pop culture, there's this:


I don't generally like rap, but this is a gem.
 
iceaura said:
That is also the apparent agenda of vocal and influential faction of the gun control advocates, and the immediate implication of a large fraction of the "arguments" advanced in support of gun control measures. So its appearance as a "mindset" is not a mystery.
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No it is not. No matter how many times you lie about it your delusion fantasies are not true
 
Billvon said:
Q: How many NRA supporters does it take to change a light bulb?
A: More guns.
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How old is that one? No, seriously. To the one, I haven't heard a good light bulb joke in years; to the other, I've never heard that one. How the hell did I miss it?
 
Tiassa said:
How old is that one? No, seriously. To the one, I haven't heard a good light bulb joke in years; to the other, I've never heard that one. How the hell did I miss it?
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probably dates to sometime after the revolt of Cincinnati so i'd say around 35 years at the oldest.
 
My son's brother has an embossed metal sign to that effect. I'd guess it's 5 or 6 years old by now..
 
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